Booch

O know for a fact a lot of players refuse to come here due to ratio reasons and getting cut for a sub par guy....and a lot of coaches will favour a vet...even if he is not as good....why waste their time and risk injury....and guys talk and touch base and give potential newguys the 411 of what its all about up in Canada...I could give an eff....if u believe my "spin" or not...but you be you....with your wealth of football knowledge and connections...I'll be me...Block me...mute me...whatever floats your dingy if u dislike what i say and save for a QB who has a steep learning curve up here....unless a player is a comp0lete dolt....and has skill....they can adapt and play if the coaching is adequate..and it's not like he stunk the joint out when he was here....we kept other stinkers tho wasnt good for yrs ago ...but hung onto an NFL PR and actual active roster for 3 yrs after...I guess the light came on after being dumped by the CFL...good on him I guess That's the pitfalls of the CFL and how teams run camps and pre-season...with 2 games now...Guys dont get legit opportunities...on all teams...and some pop off luckily in camp and jump over better players...then are just farts in the wind come next TC....I dont know why we dont extend camp and have 3 games.... and another pityfull coaching staff worse than the warts we had here...lol But 3 yrs in NFL...On same team....actual roster spot....and lotsa snaps on ST too...hard to argue that he was a piece of crap and not worthy of keeping...who did we keep that yr in lieu of him...some stars I am sure are still here...or had a couple great seasons and then vanished...I know we had Schoen that yr....but dont recall who we kept as depth after that...When Ellingson went down and Schoen stepped into his spot...who did we add to roster....nobody I can think of who still here

Good enough to hang around 3 yrs in NFL...so can't answer for other teams...but if a guy can cut it there...get several actual games in...and play st...pretty sure he should have here looking at some of the crap we rostered since...and maybe he didnt wanna come here and get cut in lieu of some lesser talented Canadian or some coaches pet...as thats also very common for a lot of guys not coming

and we cut him and then landed on Vikings roster?...Not good enough here but good enough there...now there's some good evaluating no?

Rourke also played prep ball before College too...Elgersma again did not....He heeds pro experience whether it 3 down...4 down....Trying to find random workouts...with zero pay for going there and out of pocket expense is just an exercise in stupidity now....His window was last yr...and nobody took the risk....and it wont get any better in terms of opportunity until he gets some solid pro film....and it wont be in the NFL and even the crappy UFL he behind the 8 ball there too....If he shows he good enough up in Canada....this "lack of 4 down" experience is moot....If he has it in the brain department, and has elite skills...he'll figure it out...Maybe the knock on him down south is looks the part...good arm....just doesnt have it upstairs to process what's going on...and I believe this is the case and they just were nice in saying he "lacked 4 down experience"....cause that lil tidbit is almost kinda funny in my opinion, and based on experience working with athletes...Of u got it...u got it...and NFL talent evaluators will see it...and get it outta ya....He has had success at CIS level...Like i said before...big effin deal....he may not even be able to translate that and process it at the CFL level to even be a fraction of what Rourke is His representation is doing him no favours and wasting a ton of valuable time....and even if he sucks it up and accepts the reality and gets up here...I dont see a quick path for him to being a starter here either for a few yrs...of at all.....But he has the potential to be that....but he also has to be here to realize it....and if he has a yr like Rourke was having before he got hurt...he will get some more feelers....until that happens....not a chance 2 yrs into no pay....and no real experience/development/game film.....he's just flat out winning lol

yeah...true true...Still tho believe he is just wasting time and spinning wheels and his best chance to even get another remote at best sniff from the NFL is to come up to Canada...get some experience...try and establish....anything really as currently he has nothing established, just a big arm that did well in the CIS...pretty much to be blunt a big ol whooptydo

People can get work visa's for everyday jobs as well tho...l know first hand and have it dine with company I do work with....I agree it takes time, and takes different levels of time based on situation...none the less...they should have taken care of a lot of this last yr already

yeah....gotta say it seems all around he getting some bad guidance with some people in his camp who are not too competent....a lot of the groundwork should have already been done...why do you think pretty much every Canadian in the NCAA who gets on either a NFL roster or on a PR hasnt had to come to Canada with tail between their legs due to not being able to legally earn a paycheque down there

yup...I hope he has a season of all seasons and then walks away, and some run away games where we can get QB2 whoever that is some legit reps And yeah...the concussion thing is still there...and is cumulative in their affect...I truly believe that Edm game where Brown did the big comeback that he got scrambled and has been a fraction of himself ever since....and got his noodle rocked a couple other times too since...some were very insignificant in how it happed too....cause his on-field awareness and ability to process ever since has been horrible...he's had a few moments of what looked to be the old ZC but that was more a result of everything just going right and clicking moreso than him grabbin the team by the collar and dragging them to the win... He plays panicked way too much now, and more times than not is easily goaded into errors, and just looks confused

Over 40 yrs ago when the ratio was heavier Canadian and the talent overall not close to what it is now....But yeah he was the last...and likely to stay the last Elgersma had success against 3..4 legit guys on a defence in CIS ball and then a bunch of highschool hero's playing out the string...such is the Canadian University scene....any guy with legit skill is playing prep ball if not his last 2 yrs of highschool....his Senior yr and off to the NCAA....And regardless if he in DIV 1 or Div 3...even JUCO his 4 yrs there will far surpass any training and development he would see in all his 16 yrs playing in Canada...not to mention the competition he'd be facing...Just way it is So expecting anything more than TC depth....Maybe a Short Yardage guy...possible QB2 a few yrs in who wont cripple your offence if need be is the most likely expectation. If he surpasses that and becomes a legit QB...Well bonus then I guess, but wasting the last 2 yrs chasing a pipe dream is just keeping him in a regressed state in pro ball, and further delaying any possible development...If he is so confident in himself he would suck up the ego....Get up here where he will get a legit chance and if he gets on field and shows he's real...he'll get many a call. But how he doing it now...never gonna happen for him

I tend to agree with that....Same with if Walters didnt walk away from Biggie...and now Thomas and Kolo....All 3 would be penciled in as key returnees....That's been his way for 13 yrs...I highly doubt yr 14 he was gonna change yup...Or he can use his legs and ability to move chains that way...But he is incapable of that for most part too...Is it in his head he is worried about injury and self preserving?....or he doesn't have the plums to do it a lot now?....either way it's a hinderance at QB for us. Even the times he does do it...99% of the times it's the most awkward and clumsy looking thing and just a recipe to be shelved for the yr from a big ol smack...That's also not a good thing hanging over your premium paid QB as well...Limited ways to use him due to fear of a season (likely career ender) injury

not to mention he was working with an OC with less than zero clue's as to what to do....and a self admitted HC who couldnt step in and offer some kind of help/system tweek as he also has no clue...ZC gets a somewhat a pass for last year...but if by game 6...he is being the ZC of the past 2 yrs....we need to do whatever we can to do an in-season transition

Yeah he at the upper range where he can have a bit of a resurgence, and like you said he may already have had it on 19'-22'....and even then a lot of his success in the later part of that was more the talent around him...that talent eroded last 2 yrs and well....we saw what we got My concern is his slower processing ability it seems now....and is making for poor decisions, as well as he is at times looking like he in self preservation made....and plays scared at times due to it We are yeah tied to him for this yr....My fear is he has a season that seems like he is still 2019-2021 ZC and we go and re-up him for dumb money again but that success was just smoke and mirror type success and we further stunt any transition, or miss out on a QB who could be the starter here for yrs...and we all know Osh will push for that as that's how he rolls....as he has claimed right up to the end of last yr that ZC is elite and best in league, so why would he change that stance...At least Walter's forced his hand with Thomas and Kolo and took that right outta the equation....not sure tho about him taking the ZC issue out of the equation tho I want us to win the cup next yr....but that could also be the worst thig to happen here for the QB position

ZC with a new OC....good oline again and some legit targets is gonna do one of 2 things...Either have a late in career renaissance like Calvillo had and actually be a legit #1 and possibly another 2..3 really good yrs in him if the situation allows for it....Or he is gonna confirm the last 2 yrs of this spiral into crapsville is real and he is done. And we should do whatever we have to in the season if this is the case to address it and not wait for the off-season and really be hooped...if it means trading assets...Picks...or a legitimate performer so be it, but get it accomplished If he shows a rebirth and his physical skills look like they are not degraded from previous season, then he could be a resigning on a 1 yr deal for 2027 at a reasonable price as we are hopefully grooming the 2028 guy....Not at the 600k price tag he has been getting...not even 500k...but more in the scope of what BLM has taken and if he doesnt like that deal....See ya later

Laviska Shenault would be a good CFL reciever...wonder what his interest would be...seemed to have flamed out in NFL for whatever reason

Powell in my opinion over the last several yrs looks to be the most promising and has all the tools, and seemed to possess the best technique....just needed play time.....prb get some now in Edm i was wanting us to try and grab him a yr ago already