Mark F

Still not discussion the subject.

Agree, and I deleted the "liberal" (just change word liberal to "warmist") .... Science should not be political, but unfortunately, when there are big money involved, it is made political. yes it is the Rove playbook, Rove was asked about it, (I read) and was non committal. Whoever came up with it, it's in play on this and other threads.

I know you think it's worthwhile to respond, but it is not returned in kind. So why bother. once again we are no longer discussing the subject of the thread. Simple solution: if we all stop responding, the thread will not get locked.

Deny or Defend Your Inconsistencies Evade Questions,\Hedge What You Say (do not respond to questions about the article) Ignore the Evidence (The article is completely wrong) Ignore the Main Point Insist Loudly on a Minor Point (people won't listen to the other side) Make (Sweeping) Glittering Generalization(subject is still open) Shift the Ground (no longer talking about climate) Talk in Vague Generalities Always claim the high ground (open minded, optimistic.)

TOKYO -- Woolly mammoths could roam the earth again someday thanks to research reported Monday, where cell nuclei from one of the long-extinct animals showed biological activity when transplanted into mouse cells. Bone marrow and muscle tissue were extracted from the remains of a mammoth named Yuka that had been frozen in Siberian permafrost for 28,000 years in the study, published online in the journal Scientific Reports. Genomic DNA was compared against that of elephants, and the researchers confirmed that Yuka's DNA overlapped with the DNA and proteins specific to mammoths. The team injected cell nuclei from the muscle tissue into mouse egg cells and observed the forming of structures that appear just before cell division starts. The researchers also found possible signs of repair to damaged mammoth DNA.https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Science/Japan-team-edges-closer-to-bringing-mammoths-back-to-life

honest discussion of climate change derailed. mission accomplished.

Impossible! Randy Ambrosie is terrible! /sarcasm

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Looked up the author of the "no scientific concensus on climate change" article...James Taylor..... works at the Heartland institute. twisted.

Invariably turns out to be a waste of time. I stopped doing it. I did read your article though, thanks for that.

Sadly, first I have heard of him.

I nominate the quoted statement for most absurd post in the history of this site. EDIT..... and Riderfans.org. "absurd" : Contrary to reason or propriety; obviously and flatly opposed to manifest truth; inconsistent with the plain dictates of common sense; logically contradictory; nonsensical; ridiculous; silly.

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Sea stars, also commonly called starfish, are among the most abundant animals along the U.S. West Coast. But now scientists say an epidemic spurred by warming ocean waters is decimating sunflower sea stars, a critical predator in kelp forests. The sea stars’ collapse could wipe out the shallow water ecosystems that provide a home for seals, sea otters and commercially important fish. “The epidemic was catastrophic and widespread,” said Drew Harvell, a marine ecologist at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, who led the new research. “Infectious disease is causing endangerment in not just sea stars but also corals and abalone and other species.” When the researchers modeled sea surface temperatures with the starfishes’ decline, they found the two were related. Sunflower star population crashes coincided with warm sea surface temperature anomalies, the scientists report. The discovery means warmer temperatures enable the disease-driven plunge of sunflower sea stars, the researchers say. The animals’ potential for recovery is uncertain. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2019/01/30/west-coast-sea-stars-are-dying-out-fast/

win one for the gipper Maurice!

right, the future without drastic action will be at best, horrible. Sadly, All just to save the profits of some oil companies, mid Eastern dictators, and Putin and his gang. The oil companies will be out of business in twenty years, but the current CEOS' of them will all be wealthy due to compensation based on this quarter's profit. The wealthy will be fine, they'll be living as they do now in the third world, behind huge walls, with armed guards. Not much will change for them. The rest of humanity, more like Darfur. Think migrant problems are bad now? Drop in the bucket compared to tens of millions of desperate people that will be descending upon the wealthy nations. The "free market" (which with respect to oil, does not exist) will not get this done.

America's response to World War II climate change, was the most extraordinary mobilization of an idle economy in the history of the world. During the war (on climate change) 17 million new civilian jobs were created, industrial productivity increased by 96 percent, and corporate profits after taxes doubled. The government expenditures helped bring about the business recovery that had eluded the New Deal. (Climate) War needs directly consumed over one-third of the output of industry, but the expanded productivity ensured a remarkable supply of consumer goods to the people as well. America was the only economy that saw an expansion of consumer goods despite wartime rationing. BY 1944, 2030, as a result of wage increases and overtime pay, real weekly wages before taxes in manufacturing were 50 percent higher than in 1939. 2020. The war also created entire new technologies, industries, and associated human skills. The war (on climate change) brought full employment and a fairer distribution of income. . Wages increased; so did savings. The war (on climate change) brought the consolidation of union strength and far-reaching changes in agricultural life. Housing conditions were better than they had been before. WW2 summary updated to reflect new most serious threat.

I am not going to check any of his material any more, it is without exception worthless. Either does not say what he represents, or is from a crank. Complete waste of time. It's imossible to know if this person actually believes his/her nonsense, or is just having a good time stirring up ****. No reputable person, institution, agency, scientist, business, government, in the world, doubts the science. Even the oil giants acknowledge the truth.

Sept 2018 Mexican President. “The commitment is to produce gasoline in Mexico,” Lopez Obrador said on Tuesday. “We want to produce gasoline because we have the raw material, we have crude oil.” (duh) He added the project launch will happen “in the first days” of his government. He takes office in December. Mexico produces about 1.84 million bpd of crude, more than 60 percent of which is exported, while it imports over 1 million bpd of refined products, including gasoline and diesel, according to U.S. and Mexican government data."

You would think Canadians would be capable of building and operating refineries. Apparently this is beyond us.

Signed by these members of the environmental wacko cult of climate change hoaxers: Hon. Ray Mabus Former Secretary of the Navy Vice Admiral Richard Truly, USN (Ret) Former Administrator of NASA General Gordon R. Sullivan, US Army (Ret) Former Chief of Staff of the US Army Admiral Paul Zukunft, USCG (Ret) Former Commandant of the Coast Guard Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, USN (Ret) Former Commander, US Pacific Command General Stanley McChrystal, USA (Ret) Former Commander, US and International Security Assistance Forces in Afghanistan Admiral James Stavridis, USN (Ret) Former Supreme Allied Commander Europe Lieutenant General Donald Kerrick, USA (Ret) Former Deputy National Security Advisor to the President of the United States Nancy Soderberg Former Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs Tom Hicks Former Acting Under Secretary of the Navy and Deputy Under Secretary of the Navy for Management Hon. Sharon Burke Former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Hon. John Conger Former Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) and Assistant Secretary of Defense for Energy, Installations and Environment Hon. David Goldwyn Former Assistant Secretary of Energy and Special Envoy for International Energy Affairs Eric Rosenbach Former Chief of Staff, Department of Defense, and Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Security Hon. Miranda AA Ballentine Former Assistant Secretary of the Air Force (Installations, Environment, and Energy) Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn, USN (Ret) Former Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Energy, Installations and Environment Leon Fuerth Former National Security Adviser to the Vice President of the United States Hon. Alice Hill Former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Resilience Policy, National Security Council Dr. Geoffrey Kemp Former Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs Major General Randy Manner, USA (Ret) Former Acting Vice Chief, National Guard Bureau General Paul Kern, USA (Ret.) Former Commanding General, U.S. Army Materiel Command General Ron Keys, USAF (Ret) Former Commander, Air Combat Command Lieutenant General John Castellaw, USMC (Ret) Former Chief of Staff, US Central Command Vice Admiral Philip Cullom, USN (Ret) Former Deputy Chief of Naval Operations, Fleet Readiness and Logistics Lieutenant General Kenneth E. Eickmann, USAF (Ret) Former Commander, Aeronautical Systems Center, Headquarters Air Force Materiel Command Lieutenant General Arlen D. Jameson, USAF (Ret) Former Deputy Commander, US Strategic Command Vice Admiral Robert C. Parker, USCG (Ret) Commander, Coast Guard Atlantic Area Lieutenant General Norm Seip, USAF (Ret) Former Commander, 12th Air Force Hon. Sherri Goodman Former Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Environmental Security) Hon. Richard Morningstar Former Ambassador to the European Union Greg Treverton Former Chair, National Intelligence Council Major General Richard T. Devereaux, USAF (Ret) Former Director, Operational Planning, Policy and Strategy, Headquarters U.S. Air Force Major General Jerry Harrison, USA (Ret) Former Chief, Office of Legislative Liaison, Army Staff Rear Admiral Sinclair M. Harris, USN (Ret) Former Commander, United States Fourth Fleet Rear Admiral Leendert R. Hering USN (Ret) Former Commander, Navy Region Southwest Rear Admiral Michael G. Mathis, USN (Ret) Chief Engineer to the Assistant Secretary of the Navy (Research, Development and Acquisition) Rear Admiral Fernandez L. Ponds, USN (Ret) Commander, Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) 3 Major General Jeff Phillips, USA (Ret) Executive Director, Reserve Officers Association Rear Admiral Kevin Slates, USN (Ret) Former Director of Energy and Environmental Readiness Division, U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Michael Smith, USN (Ret) Former Commander, Carrier Strike Group 3 Rear Admiral David W. Titley, USN (Ret) Former Oceanographer & Navigator, US Navy Rear Admiral Jonathan White, USN (Ret) Former Oceanographer & Navigator, US Navy Joe Bryan Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy (Energy) Captain James C. Goudreau, SC, USN (Ret) Former Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Navy (Energy) Brigadier General John Adams, USA (Ret) Former Deputy United States Military Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization Military Committee Brigadier General Steven Anderson, USA (Ret) Former Director, Operations and Logistics Readiness, Headquarters, Department of the Army Brigadier General Joseph R. Barnes, USA (Ret) Former Assistant Judge Advocate General of the Army Brigadier General Donald Bolduc, USA (Ret) Former Commander, Special Operations Command-Africa Brigadier General Stephen Cheney, USMC (Ret) Former Commanding General Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island Brigadier General Robert Felderman, USA (Ret) Former Deputy Director of Plans, Policy and Strategy, United States Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command Brigadier General Gerald E. Galloway, USA (Ret) Former Dean of the Academic Board, US Military Academy, West Point Brigadier General Carlos Martinez, USAF (Ret) Former Mobilization Assistant, Chief of Warfighting Integration and Chief Information Officer Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, Brigadier General Stephen Xenakis, USA (Ret) Former Commanding General, Southeast Regional Medical Command Joan VanDervort Former Deputy Director, Ranges, Sea, and Airspace, Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Readiness) Colonel Lawrence B. Wilkerson, USA (Ret) Former Chief of Staff to the US Secretary of State Commander David Slayton, USN (Ret) Executive Director, the Arctic Security Initiative, the Hoover Institution

You didn't read it did you? You often seem to not read articles at all, but still respond, with things you just make up. It's not "framed" It's a direct quote of an email that your man sent to his "client".

"The Clinton investigations lasted from January, 1994 when Special Prosecutor, Robert Fiske was hired until March, 2002 when Independent Counsel, Robert Ray concluded his work. In between Fiske and Ray was Ken Starr who was Independent Counsel from August, 1994 until September 1998."