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you'd be hard pressed to call that capitalism though. More like government supported monopolies.

The problem with the rider fan base in general is that they're mostly band wagon jumpers at this point. TSN started jerking off the die hards and all of a sudden everyone from that god forsaken province jumped on the bandwagon and started pretending to be super fans. It sickens me. For what it's worth Bomber fans are a better fan base than rider fans are, we've put up with so much **** and still turn out big crowds, give the riders that kind of **** show and watch them start holding telethons to fund raise for the team again.

ZOMG teh Riderz are soooooooooooooo awesome111!!!!! Best team ever!!11!!! Why are we so blessed?!?! there now you don't need to go to rider fans I just summed up the entire place.

I agree with you, I see it being Willy, Hall and Brohm to start the season with Marve being the development guy. Now as the season goes on it might change depending on what happens but to start I don't expect the depth chart to really change.

are the most out of touch people on the planet. They really don't seem to know anything other than it's not fair that some people have more than they do so **** those people.

*Rubs Eyes* Did you actually admit that you were wrong??? I never thought that I would live to see this day !! I think if Hall does play in the regular season he will get hurt in each game (like he did last year) and eventually he will disappear. no I said that live and film looked different. Willy looked worse on film too. I think it has a lot to do with the narrow scope the camera gives. Brohm was still the worst of the bunch in my estimation, just not quite as useless as he looked live.

That's because the Bombers always get raped in Calgary.

I think it's even less about cyclists not following the rules of the road so much as they are aggressive when they have right of way not taking into consideration that they are so much more vulnerable than a car. Doesn't much matter who had right of way if you get hit by a car, the guy on the bike is going to take the worst of it. Need to be more cautious just because on a bike you have more ability to stop and change direction. It's like anything else you do in traffic, pay attention and use your head and you are more likely to avoid problems

you guys worry too much, this was never in question.

I re-watched the game and Brohm did look better on film but I don't really forsee them cutting any qbs, they'll keep a 4th around and see how the season progresses. I dunno that they see Hall as a long term option but he's going to start the year backing up Willy. If they have to start going down the depth chart though who knows how things change.

people should listen to me, I don't make **** up. Hall wasn't bad in that game apart from a few throws, the receivers let him down a hell of a lot.

Hope you're right. Lots of bitching by players. The tweet by Iannuzzi took the cake today. There are a lot of players who like to speak before thinking, I wouldn't worry what they say.

I don't think that's the case at all, I think the guy really just cared about how good of an athlete a guy was and nothing else really mattered. If a guy is big and strong and fast Mack was a fan and expected the coaches to turn them into players. Went for more than just draft picks too. I'd agree with that. A little of the Al Davis School of Drafting. For what it's worth Ty Pencer ran a 4.62 40 while a Sr. in high school which did a lot in the way of getting him that scholarship to Washington State. He was originally recruited as a DT and flipped to OT during his redshirt year. As a redshirt-freshman he was made starter at LT halfway through the season. The Cougars had two Canadians starting on their OL at one point with Joe Eppele starting at RT. was Kris Robertson another guy who got on the radar because he tested really well at the combine? Seems to me he had some good measurables but the memory is a bit foggy on it.

They're putting dedicated year round bike lanes in Calgary. They wanted to put one on 1 St SE going south out of the downtown to MacLeod Trail. Anyone who knows Calgary knows that was a stupidly insane plan because of the traffic volume coming out of the downtown during evening rush hour. City council voted to not allow it for that portion of the road. But there will be dedicated bike lanes downtown. How that'll work in the winter remains to be seen. there's some dumb bikers in calgary too, I almost creamed on downtown a few weeks ago because he decided to cut in front of me from my left just as I was accelerating after having to stop to let a car turn off the street. Honestly I see it being a real clusterfuck down town, drivers can barely manage to drive properly with cars and pedestrians now you're going to throw bikes into the mix?

oh you poor sheltered winnipeggers who think you actually have busy roads...

I don't think that's the case at all, I think the guy really just cared about how good of an athlete a guy was and nothing else really mattered. If a guy is big and strong and fast Mack was a fan and expected the coaches to turn them into players. Went for more than just draft picks too.

They won't vote against it. If the CFLPA tells them to ratify it they will ratify it otherwise why do they even have the PA representing them in the first place? Quit worrying about nothing.

Disagree. This is more or less arguing for the sake of arguing b/c I don't think either will happen, but Willy has already been declared our starter. Hall hasn't been given any assurances that he'll be the backup. We gave something up to get Brohm, so there are clearly people in important positions who think highly of him. People in important positions think highly of all the qbs we have. You can disagree with me all you like but my statement is absolutely true. Some people just have this hate on for Max Hall and can't see what's really going on here. We're not rolling into the season with a guy who has never played any meaningful CFL football backing up a quarterback with extremely limited starts.

The whole thing to me sounds like a case of "When Dickheads Collide"

the one thing to keep in mind is that Abrams is apparently a Star Wars fan where he was never a Star Trek fan, which could certainly explain why he missed the mark on some of the characters there.

We got Dougie for a third round pick. I don't recall how we got Barnes but I think you are confusing him for Spurgeon Wynn. No there was a first round pick involved in the Brown trade, the Stamps too Oosterhuis who they then PRer and Taman grabbed. Trust me on this one it's 100% accurate. Barnes was absolutely a first round pick as well. TIllman was pissed because he wanted to take Barnes in the expansion draft. Wynn I believe was had for a first round pick as well. If you want to keep arguing with me go ahead but be prepared to be wrong.

Let's be completely honest here folks, there is a better chance that Hall supplants Willy as #1 to start the year than there is of anyone else supplanting Hall as #2 to start the season.

Never mind that none of those guys have or had a particularly strong arm... but brains and accuracy oh my stars they were amazing in those aspects.

With Mack, Pencer, Etienne and Poblah now gone, what are we going to argue about? Poblah was a pretty silly argument to have anyway, everyone and their dog agreed that he was a prospect well worth using a first rounder on and if he was in the draft he likely was the #1 pick. Just happened that the guy couldn't translate all those physical tools into anything of substance.

Not really, there's a pretty good difference in my mind between 4 and 8 when a team is trading down. I know you're a Mack apologist but bear with me here... The story, as we are told, is that O'B forced Mack's hand into the trade before Buono made the move. If Mack had been connected, he would have heard rumblings... as if Edm doesn't call the bombers and ask for something... At that time, we had #3, #16, #21, etc... we had the 'firepower' to move up again and get Westerman, Mack sat on his hands and was schooled by Buono. you are assuming Edmonton was actually looking to move their #2. The way I see the situation unfolding is that Mack had the optional move with Hamilton made but BC was asking Hamilton about #3 as well so Hamilton says to Mack **** or get off the pot we got other teams interested, so he pulls the trigger. After that I see BC going hard for Edmontons pick moreso than anything else and those two teams dealing with each other not really caring about what other teams are doing.