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That one was pure politics and it goes all the way back to Chretiens campaigning on "we will remove the GST" it was purely a very prominent way for them to play the "see unlike the Liberals we keep our campaign promises, you can trust us when we tell you something" It wasn't done with any intent of actually being good for the budget and I am sure they knew that when they did it, they simply wanted to give a big old middle finger to the Liberal party.

You know I think Slay was a case of people liked the name so much they turned him into a better prospect than he actually was.

Yeah but they did a lot of their work with the finances on the backs of the GST and NAFTA which were Mulroneys babies. See here is the thing, a lot of times you don't see the true impacts of a government until they are actually out of office. The other thing that Chretien and Martin did to help them balance the books was download more costs onto the provinces. It's not a simple black and white issue ever with the budget. There are so many moving pieces and so many long term things that it is hard to simply look at one snap shot in time and say X did this.

Well they did cut the corporate tax rates, which is a pretty right wing thing to do. Like I said, they are pretty lock step with the conservatives on most economic issues.

Yeah let's not pretend that there wasn't a massive global recession at the time. Not to mention he was in a minority situation and had to pander to the left with some spending to keep the government going. It's never black and white with deficits and budgets and honestly too much is made of deficits from year to year.

If a guy is as talented as all that, then it really doesn't matter, just bring him in and you can always find a spot for him. I really don't believe that there is one position and one position only for guys like that, I think that if they're able to play they're able to play.

This meme needs to die. The Liberals are not a left wing party. They are the very definition of a middle of the road party. Campaign on the left govern on the right. They have more common ground with the conservatives than they do with the NDP. The fact of the matter is that NDP supporters are just desperate to pretend that they are not a fringe party. They'e the ones that are out in left field while the Conservatives and Liberals are battling over the middle ground. If you vote Liberals thinking it's going to be in any way similar to the NDP you're gonna have a bad time. With the Liberals and Conservatives you're going to get the same basic style of government, just the Liberals might make some more noises about social progress where as the Conservatives are busy trying to get their idiot base to keep quiet about their social conservatism because they don't really want to go down those roads but will throw them the odd bone.

classy or not, he's right. I too laughed at the people who thought it was a major election plank and actually thought they'd go through with it. Like the Liberals would ever ditch the system that has seen them form more governments than anyone else and see the NDP get more power? Not a chance. It was just another in the long line of lie the Liberals will feed people. Actually it shocked the hell out of me that people have such short attention spans that they don't remember the last Liberal government... It's been their MO for a long long time. Flat out lie in elections to win and then do whatever the hell they want when they get in. Nicknames like Fiberals and Liebrals didn't come from nowhere.

Muamba is a good player, but is he reliable? Been a mercenary the whole time, not sure that's the guy you make changes to your roster for.

What if Santos-Knox can play the middle well? Then all this whining about the position and not making a big splash in FA is all for nothing... but I guess that's what Bomber fans love to do is whine about things in the offseason.

The Rock has been a movie star for so long it's time to stop even considering him a wrestler. Why would he take that risk? Why put his body through that?

Hey man don't turn down free ass wipe.

I like to think that the reason they didn't bring Euclid Cummings back for a 2nd year was related to that.

Muamba has always chased the money, this time will be no different. He's probably just delaying now to see if Kyle Walters will up the offer but I wouldn't hold my breath on that. So unless he decides that he really doesn't want to play in that train wreck....

then put it in the TV thread that you've already ruined, no one cares here. leave this for it's intended purpose.

So why post it here?

then why post it?

Sling insults all you want, I am a simple man, all I want is the opportunity to tell people atoadaso.

what do I need avatar bets for? Bragging rights are all I ever need.

obviously how many more pennies they can squeeze out of some general manager. Guy always wants max dollars.

well that and it's some protection for the players in a league where there is no such thing as a guaranteed contract. Get a lump sum up front and even if the team decides to release you you've still got paid something rather than losing out on a bunch.

Wilder is talented no question there, I just think Bluto is really expecting more than the guy will be capable of. It's one thing to come in midseason and tear **** up, but like I said in my last post, do it from the start of the season over the entire course and it won't last. guy will get too beat up doing it. No one can sustain that pace over a whole year.

yahuh. How many times have we seen guys come in late with fresh legs and put up monster numbers only to have the grind of an 18 game season wear them down and the pace isn't sustainable? Happens to every single running back. Even if they start strong and play all 18 they don't maintain that kind of pace. That's even assuming they don't get hurt, which is entirely possible.