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Simple fact is the Bombers whole philosophy is to take plays when they are there, but don't take risks and win by making less mistakes than the other team. It's worked pretty well lately, fancy stats be damned.

So much worry about offensive numbers... Winnipeg doesn't play for offensive numbers. They play safe, which means low risk on offense and rely on special teams to shift field position in their favour and defense to get the ball back for them.

People can have any opinion they want, all that matters is whether they are comfortable defending that opinion in a logical manner. You believe crazy **** cause it's what you feel and don't want it questioned at all, well then you can piss off, but if you're willing and able to justify it then all good.

Yeah Popp is poopy without a qb to carry him. The Argos might be the worst team I've seen, and I have seen some bad ones....

Will the Argos even win a game? That team just looks smelly bad.

So much this. Lots of people claim objectivety but in reality what they do is focus on what the Bombers do poorly and what other teams do well. Calgary hasn't looked good this year and BC has looked awful. West right now based on the first 3 weeks of the season has Winnipeg and Edmonton as the top teams in the west and it's not close. Right at this moment.

******* idiot coaches...

lots of shitty qbs had great preseasons too. The point is that a guy needs to throw more than 34 passes in real time to be ranked anywhere with any accuracy.

Nichols is a good short to medium passer in my books, iffy on the long balls. Not as quick as he was with his feet at one point, but the number of injuries the guy has had to his legs that happens. I think he's generally got a good attitude and leads the team but has on occasion lost it. He has shown the ability to regain that in the past though. No one is claiming that Matt Nichols is the pinnacle of a quarterback, all people are saying is that he does some good things out there and has done some very good things for this team so the people who come in here and treat him like he's TJ Rubley are out of line. No one is claiming that Matt Nichols played well against Edmonton, all we are doing is arguing this insane talk that he's a trash quarterback because reasons. I mean Mitchell and Reilly are the top quarterbacks in the CFL no questions asked. On paper Harris might appear better than Nichols but the results don't match up to the numbers for Harris in my opinion and I have Nichols and Harris as a teir below the top guys, you want to put Harris ahead of Nichols I'll go with that, but it's not some huge gap between the two of them based on the results. Masoli I don't believe is all that good. beating up the weak sisters of the league right now doesn't make him an elite quarterback. So yeah, barring paying 3/4 of a million per year for a qb we're doing OK at the position.

all 34 passes he's thrown and you got him as 5th best?

They tried to win on the backs of Harris while the stamps D took that away. Lapo failed hard bringing the rider game plan against a much better team.

**** that noise, it was entirely the game plan that neutered the offense.

I dunno, fenner probably gets some rope but if he keeps taking penalties that won't last.

It's just typical Winnipeg fans. No one is ever good enough for them. We sit Nichols for Streveler and he runs the same offense people will turn on him and scream for McGuire. This team is not going to be the high flying team they want ever because it's not built that way by the coaches. The coaches want to play a safe game and win the field position game, on the backs of good special teams in a lot of cases. This team will rarely blow anyone out, but as we have seen they will grind out wins. We are the CFL equivalent of a neutral zone trap nhl team.

But of the 4 playoff games he's had here he has 1 loss to BLM and one to Reilly and 2 of the losses can be pinned on shoddy defense.... he also came closer to beating BLM last year than Harris did. I think Nichols gets undersold a lot. Yeah last night was tough but overall he is a guy you can win with.

Yeah Harris likely pissed off and will have 150+ combined yards next time.

Worse QBs have won grey cups than Matt Nichols

P Because it isn't about numbers... Nichols looked good in game 1, he didn't need to pass a ton in BC But he was calm and in control and accurate with his passes. Last night yeah it was ugly, but like I said the esks made Reilly look like a raw rookie the week before so perhaps they just have a good defense over there.

He looked really ******* good in game 1 despite the lack of yardage so don't give me that crap. That Edmonton D made Mike Reilly look like shell shocked Drew Willy so maybe we're all being too harsh on him based on 1 game early in the season.

and it's OK to talk about the things Nichols did poorly, but the people coming in acting like he's always been a shitty qb and never done anything for this team, well they need to be called on it.

I got no use for people who show up only to ***** about players or coaches. You want to have a discussion fine, but this isn't the CJOB post game show where people get to just throw out their shitty stupid opinions without being called out on it.

agree completely, he has taken way way too many penalties and I can't see O'Shea standing for that. tones it down he'll be OK, but right now that's a killer.

Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

Welcome to Winnipeg Blue Bombers fandom where perfection is expected or you get run out of town on a rail.

Good thing it's still June and still glorified preseason time.