Mark H.

Pick the guy who'll rob you the least...

They could be shoring up the special teams - Canadian DB's make up the bulk of ST players.

I assume every one is aware that there is hardly any snow south of North Dakota? That's why they're not forecasting a flood for this year.

And the way humans exist has been changing ever since we arrived on planet. The last big change (the growth of civilization) was spurred by agriculture, maybe the next one will be spurred by climate change.

AKA Chip (wanted to quote your post but it's not working) I agree with you, but I don't think a guy like Fleury would be enough of a difference maker in Winnipeg. In fact I see him and Pav as being quite similar in performance and consistency.

Goaltending: 1. Good teams are winning championships without a lights out goal-tender. Recently, Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Detroit 2. A goal-tender capable to elevating a team with the Jets' talent level would be in NHL top 5

Quick, Lundqvist, et. al. are not available

So - the GM makes some moves that make them better now - the team finishes 7th or 8th - makes a first round exit To achieve that you've probably given up some future talent Then what?

so you're saying that seeing him in Hogtown is a longshot... The more I hear about Creehan the more glad I am that he is gone. Not sure how he pulled off the 2011 defence we had, though it looks like it was more because of Burke and in spite of having Creehan on the staff. Well yes, Burke was the DC in 2011

A good long calorie burning, artery unclogging, nap - yep

x4 There were no complaints from anyone - just working towards a more positive atmosphere

I like Quiznos - anyone else? Used to go to the one on St. James on game days.

That's a good point. I can go to a local family restaurant and get a massive burger platter for 9.99. Fast food has become a rip off, especially MD with their tiny burgers. However, if prices are a concern, get yourself some coupons. A & W has coupons that get you two combos for $10 - they're usually in our local paper. The 9.99 burger platter is quickly disappearing. I'm not a fan of cheeseburgers, so I'd ALWAYS get just the plain burger wherever we went, and could often get it for said $9.99 price tag. No more. It's at least $10.99 in any place you look, and in some places it's even more (nevermind the $2-3+ they charge you for a soft drink with it). It's tough to come away from a family restaurant without spending $14.00 after tax, and at McDonalds (if you order wisely) you can get a lot of food for under $10.00 (double hamburgers, anyone?) Two or three dollars more but far more food on the plate. $9.99 @ Barney Gargle's in Selkirk. If you don't want to pay for pop, order ice water with lemon.

That's a good point. I can go to a local family restaurant and get a massive burger platter for 9.99. Fast food has become a rip off, especially MD with their tiny burgers. However, if prices are a concern, get yourself some coupons. A & W has coupons that get you two combos for $10 - they're usually in our local paper.

Good God man. If you're worried about excess sodium, you shouldn't be eating fast food, period.

Simple solution: onion rings

I really don't want to weigh in on this. But it's clear that the lack of Canadian talent and depth on this team is a long term problem. You have to build a stable of young Canadian by keeping most of your picks and drafting effectively every year. Mack's drafting record is spotty, but he did inherit a team that had spent several years trading away most of their picks.

Which scenario would most fans prefer? Drew Willy at 4 - 12 or Kevin Glenn at 9 - 9? Let's face it, Glenn would make this team better. He has a quick release and runs a good short yardage game, which fits well with a subpar OL. If Willy is the better QB, he'll play. I dare say Walters knows they can't afford another season of QB development.

Suber: do you think he'd be effective at SAM?

I was told that it had been discontinued. It's also no longer displayed on their website. Should've emptied the bloody shelf.

My preferred Scotch for cheaper every day drinking is Grants Ale Cask Finish. It has a blue label (most Grants has a red label). There is also a green label that is a Sherry Cask finish. Both are very smooth scotches with great taste; not single malt but definitely very good. However, I have never found the green label in MB (only in Ontario) and most LC outlets that used to carry the blue label no longer do. When I asked about it, I discovered the employees have the same complaint. "Used to sell a fair amount of that stuff and pour it myself." Unquote. If anyone sees Grants with a blue label, please give me a shout. Meanwhile...my gears continue to grind...

There will be pros and cons no matter how you set up the justice system. It just bothers me that people who should be better informed are calling for an appeal. An appeal based on what?

Mark - sorry to hear about your friend. That's horrible. I just didn't see and still don't see how drunk driving is related to this topic. We could introduce one hundred red herrings about stupid decisions made by humans that led to the death of other humans and how those people were put in jail and are now out, but it doesn't really relate to this specific story. Anyway, once again, sorry to hear about your friend. I read the article, and I get the fact that this guy was found NCR. I also get that it's "naïve" of anyone to question the doctors making the decisionto let him go out unsupervised as of course they are the intelligent experts and we're all dumb so our opinions don't matter, and of course, we all lack "common sense", whatever the hell that is. We just have to keep our emotions in check here and see what happens. And that's the reality here, no one knows what is going to happen. Hopefully in 20 years, the name of Vince Li is forgotten, and his reintegration into society was successful. Maybe you guys will one day end up sitting beside him at a Jets game, or buying him a beer at a wedding social, and not even know it. We don't know if he will re-offend, but we do know what he is capable of if he does. So that's that. I'm amazed that you don't see the connection between those two scenarios. Peace - I have nothing further to add to this thread.

It appears that while he was "undiagnosed" he was put in a mental facility in 2005 in Toronto and given some meds, but he left as he refused treatment. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/tormented_by_mental_illness-40769547.html So never mind no medication at all, he could have been taking the wrong medication for his condition.

I've contributed a lot to this thread, Mike, including posting a link to an article in the Sun that I disagreed with, but thought it relevant. Yeah I've added some offensive humour, but it's only in response to the extremely offensive bleeding heart nonsense I've seen posted here (drunk driving - shame on you guys for dragging that issue into this discussion), so now we're both offended, and I really didn't want to get into name-calling etc as that just takes away from the debate. I agree that this is an emotional issue and given we are human it's basically impossible to separate the emotion here, especially when given the gruesome nature of what happened. I blame Li for his actions (for going off his meds when he knew he was ill, at the very least) but I also blame the RCMP for just standing around for hours, just letting it happen. If this had happened a few hundred miles south Li would have waved his knife and head of the victim at the cops and gotten a double tap to the heart and one between the eyes and the cannibalism would have never happened. But it did, and they just sat there watching, and I've never really felt the RCMP apologized for that. Shame on us? Sorry, but drunk driving has killed more people and ruined more lives than the criminally insane ever will. I know someone who's dead because of an impaired driver - the driver got five years. In five years he'll be out of custody and not under any kind of supervision. Please read the article from the Free Press that was posted in this thread.