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The amount to head to head contact that happens in the game, that barely registered. I bet you there was hundreds of helmet to helmet hits in that game that were more forceful then that. Like everytime a dline and oline crash into each other. that wasn't a spear.

Guys do that a lot after a play. Get in a guys face and hit helmet to helmet/head butt a guy. I bet if the league suspended Robertson the PA could come up with several examples this year where a player did something similar and didn't result in a fine. The few differences between this play is that it was one a QB, and two the QB took a dive to make the contact worse then it was.

Hey i am not saying it was a smart play by any means and not even a football play. If a player wants to take a 15 yard penalty against the Riders Qb and do that go for it. I just don't think it is suspension worthy.

There is no precedent for this type of play getting a suspension in the CFL. This is the fact, you can argue that you think it should get a suspension but if the league decides to suspend him I would be shocked if it was appealed if stood up.

Just because it was worthy of a 15 yard penalty doesn't mean it is suspension worthy. Guys head but other guys after the whistle a ton. I have never seen someone suspended from it and I would not expect Robertson to be suspended either.

Booch, if diving head first on a guy on the ground is not a cheap shot then what is? If that happened to willie what would you say?

Ya but for the timing of the offence you need speed. The riders aren't using Duke to clear stuff out. What we are saying are two different things. Obviously DBs will run with guys if they go deep. But if it is happening later and clogging up pass lanes then it is not stretching the zone and making it easier to defend against. Going deep isnt just to take shots its to stretch the deep defenders and hopefully open up some of the in between stuff.

The problem is you need a guy with speed to press that DB and get him out of a back pedal. You also need to be fast run a clearout. For instance if you are running a dagger type concept the guy running the go needs to clear the zone so the guy running the dig can run into an open area. Speed isnt just about taking shots deep, its about stretching the defense vertically to open things up underneath. As an outsider I think this is where the bombers need to use Grant on offence more, even if he isn't catching bombs he could possibly open things up for other guys.

Add into the fact that Wilson is a very good coverage linebacker, one of if not the best in the league and you have a reason to be concerned.

From an outside perspective I think you guys have too many big physical recievers. Wolitarasky, Oleary Orange, Ellingson, Bailey, Schoen are all guys that are big and strong. They would also be guys that all benefit from having the waggle because they are not as fast off the line. Unfortunately, for Bailey he seems to be taking most of his snaps from the X position and starting from a stand still. I think the lack of waggle has really hurt him. I don't know how you fix this issue without sitting someone to get more speed/explosiveness in there. Also with how Bailey has played in the past Idk if you can sit him, but the other two Americans are playing better then him.

Montreal played Thursday, Riders Saturday.

Ottawa's DT dou is for sure underrated by most people. Cleyon Laing is probably the best Canadian DT by a long shot with the slowing down of Laurent. Davon Coleman has been a solid player in the league for a long time. He hasn't got the press of a Dylan Wynn, Stove or Micah Johnson but he has consistently been one of the better American DTs in the CFL. I k

It actually probably isnt Wade Miller. Out of curiosity I looked up who the riders representative was this morning because a good friend of mines dad has been the chair of the Riders board for the last several years, and I was curious if he was involved in this. The Riders BOG representative was a board member. I would assume the Bombers is probably the same.

He works for the BOG's he is following their direction and trying to get the best deal for them. I dont understand why commissioners in pro sports leagues get so much hate while Owners generally get a pass for the actions that they influence. If you guys are mad get mad at Wade Miller or whoever sits on the BOGs as the bombers representatives

Just said in RF Lacey was not in the top half of starting MLB in the CFL last year. I know he probably more of a Will but I dont see how you pay someone that is pretty much a replacement level player 250,000. Dexter MCcoil is probably regretting his retirement announcement with what jones is tossing around to former defensive players.

I mean, Chris Jones is back in the CFL. He already lost out on guys like Willie Jefferson and Masoli so he has money to spend.

Tyreke is one of one. There is no one in the world that compares to him as a combo of pure speed, quickness, route running, catching ability. There is a reason why many NFL teams have drafted busts trying to get the next Tyreke. I know it is a stretch but if i was to compare Demski to someone in the NFL it would be Deebo Samuel. thick but fast. Canmake guys miss but also be a physical runner. No way the bombers lose both AH and Brady Oliveira, correct?

I completely disagree. Marino was very good for a first year player in very limited snaps. The discipline thing is for sure an issue along with being able to play multiple snaps (always looked gassed) and injuries. Well as been discussed in this thread already it seems the riders are going for a change in leadership with moving on from Purifoy and Gainey. They brought back Dean which kind of scares me, but he is a veteran guy. Edam is a veteran guy and I guarantee they sign another veteran guy in free agency most likely at DB. The leadership thing isn't super worrying to me. On defence I am mostly worried about who is going to play DT as a national and what the Linebacker group will look like next year as that was a big weakness.

Micah Johnson is still a good player. His loss is manageable though because we had two young Americans that played well in spots last year in Marino and Lanier. Wynn and Johnson will be a very physical tandem in Hamilton. I wonder where Ted Laurent ends up now?

Ya for sure. Unfortunately there are no Stanley Bryant level guys in Free Agency this year for the Riders to pick up.

I think the CFL has a bit of a lack of talent at the import Tackle position right now. The two name guy from Calgary is pretty good, Winnipegs guys are pretty good then it seems like a ton of average to below average guys. As a Rider fan I think I want Ucambre Williams but he is not a game changer at tackle. He is better than what we had out there last year but I dont think he is going to be worth what a team will have to pay him.

Maybe I am biased as I am from Sask, have watched Borsa play a ton and know him decently well. I think he has the potential to be a very good back. If he wasnt suspended for the year before his draft year he would have gone much higher. He is big, has break away spead and is effective out of the backfield in the passing game. I bet he is the third back and special teams guy before getting more and more offensive snaps.

no I think that the franchise is drastically different than the one that lied to him. As i stated earlier new Owner, GM and coaching staff. The anger at BC this year would have been making it up considering all the people that screwed him are no longer there.

ahh players will use anything they can if they think it will give them an edge.

Hypothetically if you were to sign Boateng you could sub Thomas out and Run 3 d ends in passing situations which would be pretty ideal. I dont see how you would be able to afford him though paying a guy 150,000+ to be a situational pass rusher doesnt seem like a good use of resources. On another note I dont know why Chris Jones hates canadians at certain positions. Boetang is a good DE regardless of passport and it should be looked at as a bonus that he is Canadian.