Deiter Fan

So you think the coaching staff is saying to the team.."Hey we shut out the Riders. We're great. Nothing to improve on. Go home and we'll see you after the break"? Is that what you think? I'm 52 and have been a Bomber supporter since 1974. I'm just not a blue goggle wearing sycophant unable/unwilling to recognize the team's short comings. Now...do you have anything to say about the team that doesn't have something to do with me, personally? Cuz if not I think I'll exercise my right to ignore you.

Fair enough.

I prefer to maintain some rationality and objectivity. You're free to conduct yourself however you wish...but I guarantee you the coaching staff is also looking at improving the flaws on the team, as well. Doesn't mean they don't care about the team. Just the opposite, actually.

Bomber fans have no problem saying Collaros is crap and is way over rated...yet over his entire career he and Nichols have basically the exact same numbers, literally, and Collaros has been to the Grey Cup. Yet calling him crap makes sense but pointing out Nichols' flaws makes one a troll.

I just don't think it's unreasonable to point out that, unlike last year, this win streak is due to a dominant D and that NIchols' performance has been less than stellar. Every team in the league, no matter how successful, is always looking to improve...every player is looking to improve. The 4 game win streak is thanks to the D and Nichols not making the same kind of mistakes he was making previously. It hasn't been because of his stellar play. All he had to do in those games was not screw up and panic...and he was able to do that. My concern is what happens when the D isn't able to contain a team like they have been? It's incredibly ironic considering last year it was exactly the opposite. The O put up lots of points and the D would squander them and the concern then was what would happen when the O wasn't able to cover the spread the D was giving up.

Nichols went 10-18 for 155. If we extend Streveler's numbers thru 3 quarters he's 9-15 for 134. Except for the interception their numbers would have been nearly identical. The difference, of course, is that the offence was playing conservative/not to lose in the 4th.

NS took a lot of crap for expressing his opinion on the other board about Nichols and I was actually one that used to give him that crap. But after this season I'm starting to recognize what his concerns were/are and happen to agree to a large extent that Nichols is not the future of this team. Nichols behaviour and play this year has really soured me on him. You're free to disagree with that...that's your (and all other poster's) right. But the personal shots lacking any other comments of substance is just weak.

So nothing from you either beyond personal shots. Why make it personal? I offered an opinion which you can either agree with or not. You are also free to provide your own opinion on his actions or play. Instead you choose to attack me personally. Calling out a well paid athlete for below average play is not being a troll for goodness sake.

So Nichols is above reproach because he's "well paid"? That's some pretty sketchy logic. I happen to think that because he's well paid he is wide open to criticism. He's been an average to below average QB this year and this last game did nothing to change that perception. Finally...he didn't just celebrate...he was making a statement that appeared to say "Hey all you naysayers, look at me and how great I am". That, to me, is not the act of a confident QB.

What does the number of posts I've made on this board have to do with my ability to recognize people getting their panties in a bunch because of the comments of a stranger? You telling me you can't see the emotion being expressed by those commenting to NS? Why so much emotion? You think if Nichols gets traded next year he'll give 2 poops about you or the Bombers? I mean, look at you...a personal shot at me? For what? Did I mention you...or any other poster by name? But you felt the need to make it personal. Grow up

I suppose if it was just this one game I would agree but this has been typical of his play all year...even going back to the end of last year. A guy that feels the need to strut like that after completing one pass tells me he isn't all that confident in himself. I'm glad we got the win but I have real concerns about Nichols and I don't think the kind of numbers he's putting up will lead us to the promised land.

The word "hate" sure does get tossed around a lot now-a-days. It has caught up to "love" as a word that is overused to the point where it has lost all meaning and significance. I mean, c'mon...Do I hate Nichols because I point out that his strutting seemed silly considering he had a 72 yard TD pass to Adams in the first quarter yet ended that quarter with 71 yards passing? Or that he only completed 10 passes in 3 quarters for 155 yards? Except for the interception Streveler had basically the same numbers as Nichols and is a rookie. Shouldn't we be expecting more from a seasoned vet? Nichols has come across as an emotional basket case this year...and that's not "hate" talking...it's just a simple examination of the facts with a bit of opinion tossed in. Why people take some of this stuff personally is beyond me.

This is all I could think of when I saw him strutting. Maybe he wants a new nickname?

He was telling his coach he wasn't going in?

He was actually shaking his head to signal he wasn't going in. He even spoke to the camera and said something like..."There's only 1min 11sec to go. I'm not going in." Then smiled. Suitor followed up with something about if Reilly's injury was serious then Glenn would be getting the next start and there was no point putting him in and risking him getting injured in a lost cause. As an aside...and for how often I think the refs have it in for us...I was surprised there wasn't a penalty call for interference on O'neill on the punt block. Not sure who it was but someone tackled him as he was going for the ball. I thought for sure they were gonna toss a flag.

So I wasn't the only one that got the sense he wanted to tell the whole city to go to H E double hockey sticks?

Everybody has a plan...til they get punched in the mouth Mike Tyson

So in one breath I'm dumb for suggesting BLM was off and that it wasn't the D causing the issues....on this play specifically. In the next breath you admit BLM has not been very good. Suggesting the schemes on D are leaving receivers open all over the field is objectively true. We can deny it if it makes us feel better but it doesn't make it any less true.

I can't believe more people aren't recognizing this. For anyone with the game still on PVR (or if anyone knows where to find the game online, link me and I'll point it out) go to about 6min left in the 1st quarter. BLM passes over the middle to a wide open rec. So wide open that there was literally no one else on the screen but the rec for a huge gain into the red zone. On the next play Calg runs the ball, picks up a few yards. On second down BLM throws one into the ground to another wide open rec. Rod Black says something inane like the D steps up for Wpg but in reality they did nothing and it had nothing to do with being gassed. Had BLM been sharp in the first half the game would have been out of reach long before the 4th. But...I guess some people only see what they want to see.