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  1. On 12/1/2017 at 2:59 PM, Noeller said:

    that guy is off the charts insane.....those super bible thumpers are always the ones with something going on behind the scenes. Wouldn't surprise me in the least...

    http://www.constantinereport.com/a-very-long-list-of-republican-sex-offenders/  Check out the bible thumpers on this list.  I verified the first 5  or 6  and then realized the list is about 10 pages long.

  2. On 10/19/2017 at 11:54 AM, blue_gold_84 said:

    This only makes sense.  They clearly didn't see the implications that it would cost more to sell to your own family than to a complete stranger. 

    I do think there has to be a "happy" medium here, though.  First of all, the "traditional" (unincorporated) farm wouldn't have been effected by these changes at all - so we are generally talking about some pretty wealthy (in terms of capital, land and possibly income) farm operations.  While it shouldn't cost more to hand the farm down, it shouldn't be tax-free either.  A fair middle ground would be to exempt "heritage" land.  By that I mean land that was owned by the family when the following generation reached a certain age, or even when they were born.  As it stands, an old, wealthy incorporated farmer could go on a land-buying binge right before he "sells" the land to his kid(s) and we'd all be subsidizing the cost of his new fleet of 500K combines with the taxes he avoids.

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    16 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

    I cant imagine future gatherings of the Presidents including Trump and looking as warm and "fun" as they do now.  Despite strong disagreements, I think most people look at the Presidents and see men who were patriots and deeply wanted to do what they felt was best for the United States.  Its fair to say many people dont feel that way about Trump.

    I just can't imagine a school ever being named after Trump - unless they go back to to the old lexicons (ie "Donald Trump School For the Insane").

  4. Pelly Island is an uninhabited Island northwest of Tuktoyaktuk. Scientists have been tracking the erosion and estimate the coastline is washing away at a rate of 30-40 metres every year. Scientist Dustin Whalen,with Natural Resources Canada, is one of the people trying to document how quickly the shoreline is disappearing. 

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-october-13-2017-1.4352029/why-homes-along-arctic-coastline-are-at-risk-of-falling-into-the-ocean-1.4352216

     

  5. 10 minutes ago, Atomic said:

    An article from a hard left publication explaining why Liberal biases are correct and Conservative biases are incorrect.  Fascinating stuff.

    The fact that you are shooting the messengers rather than reviewing the studies by Pew and Yale would indicate the bias you apparently oppose.  Weren't you just saying how impressive your University education was?  This is Yale, man.

  6. 1 hour ago, Atomic said:

    You guys are so clueless.  Not once have I denied that humans are causing climate change.  But you are so hellbent on your crusade that you develop a strawman and argue against it.

    Enjoy your high school educations.  I'm sure you have plenty of spare time to spend on the internet "learning the truth."  :D 

    Just going to leave this here:

    https://www.salon.com/2012/02/24/the_ugly_delusions_of_the_educated_conservative/

     

  7. 28 minutes ago, Atomic said:

    No point arguing with two people who sit there sharing articles that agree with their viewpoint and never investigate alternative views.  And then claim there is a scientific consensus, where there isn't one, by saying anyone who disagrees must be getting paid off by a corporation.

    Please show me a prominent denier who hasn't been.  

    And about that "no consensus thing - that is demonstrably false:

    The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.
    http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php

  8. 4 minutes ago, Mark F said:

    I like this one

    "A Canadian climate change denial group has popped up in a U.S. coal giant's bankruptcy proceedings that have lifted the curtain on the funding of a sophisticated continent-wide marketing campaign designed to fool the public about how human activity is contributing to global warming.

    A document, nearly 1,000 pages long, lists the Calgary-based Friends of Science Society as one of the creditors expecting to get money from the once-mighty coal company, Peabody Energy.

    Climate scientists and environmentalists have long suspected that the so-called “Friends” group was a front for fossil fuel companies trying to block government action to reduce carbon pollution, but Friends of Science members always declined to reveal their source of funding."

    People will be glad to know that coast to coast am, overnight radio show, does not accept climate science either.

    They also have guests who discuss things like ghostly encounters, communicating with the dead, time travel, anti vaccine, alien visitations, crop circles.

    I'm ashamed that Tim Ball (Friends of Science) is from Winnipeg. 

    Retired - Professor of Geography, University of Winnepeg
    Senior Scientific Advisor, Friends of Science Chairman and Chair of the Scientific Advisory Committee, Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP)

    Tim Ball was a "scientific advisor" to the oil industry funded Friends of Science, an organization well known for its climate skepticism and politically charged attack ads. Ball is a member of the Board of Research Advisors of the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, a Canadian free-market think tank which is also predominantly funded by foundations and corporations. Ball is also a writer for Tech Central Station, a climate denial website run by the PR firm DCI Group. 

    Tin Ball was a professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg from 1988 to 1996. He is a prolific speaker and writer in the skeptical science community.

     http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/personfactsheet.php?id=1164

     

  9. I think we need to turn this debate around and re-frame the question to:  Does A Climate Change Denial Industry exist?

    Answer: yes

    http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/front-groups/

    http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-industries/

    For those who aren't aware, the Koch Industries Fertilizer plant in Brandon is the top greenhouse gas emitter in the province (data from 2014).

    .http://climatechangeconnection.org/emissions/manitoba-ghg-emissions/manitoba-large-final-emitters-lfe/

     

    Reporting Facility GHG emitted
    (tonnes CO2e)
    % MB total min./T
    Koch Fertilizer Plant 665,791 3.1% 0.79
    Brady Road Landfill 381,030 1.8% 1.38
    TransCanada Pipeline 268,200 1.2% 1.96
    Faulkner Lime Plant 143,632 0.7% 3.66
    Summit Road Landfill 106,284 0.5% 4.95
    Thompson Operations 78,883 0.4% 6.66
    Minnedosa Ethanol Plant 77,891 0.4% 6.75
    Brandon Hydro Station 72,404 0.3% 7.26
    Manitoba Kraft Papers 68,854 0.3% 7.63
    Kilcona Landfill 61,950 0.3% 8.48

    This article articulates the various players and groups involved in getting Trump to declare he is pulling out of the Paris Agreement:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/jun/02/trumps-paris-exit-climate-science-denial-industry-has-just-had-its-greatest-victory

     

     

     

  10. 1 hour ago, Atomic said:

    Gotta love the almost godlike reverence served to "scientists", like they are infallible.  I went to university with the kind of guys who perform these studies and let me just say they are far from perfect.  I wonder how many of the other people in this thread have a bachelor of science or better like I do.  And then lecture me on science.

    Yeah, it's pretty strange that we would have reverence for people who study, critique, report on and deal with scientific facts and theory for a living - often giving up more lucrative careers in private business.  Scientists themselves will tell you that they are not infallible - that's your interpretation.  Scientific consensus does mean something and I find it pretty arrogant of people who believe they can pick and choose which consensus they agree with.  

  11. 1 hour ago, Atomic said:

    What question?

    Why didn't you address the rest of my post?  If you want to talk then talk, don't take your ball and go home because I don't agree with you.

    My point is that I don't see any link between floods, wildfires, and other natural disasters in Canada and nothing you have provided has made that link.

    Warmer ocean temperatures causing more severe hurricanes, I can believe.  But that's just one small part of the picture.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/  I hope NASA is scientific enough for you.

  12. 3 hours ago, bearpants said:

    this is a really confusing response... you start out by saying that my belief is consistent with scientific evidence (I have not read all the scientific literature on this topic, just offered an opinion)... then say that science proves my beliefs to be completely wrong??

    At what point did I claim science states climate change is 100% human caused?... I fully believe climate change is real and encouraged by human behavior... but I also think there would be climate changes, even if humans did not exist...

    You said that it's hard to believe it's 100% human caused which suggests that science/government etc. is suggesting it is.  I may have misunderstood you, but the inference is certainly there.  I can't believe this thread is 13 pages long.  The answer to the original question is Real.

  13. http://time.com/4499088/guns-us-super-owners-report/  3% of the American population own almost half (130 million) of all guns in the U.S.  

    "According to the survey, gun stock in America has increased by 70 million since 1994, while the percentage of Americans who own guns actually dipped from 25% to 22%. The survey also found that the proportion of female gun owners is increasing while fewer men own guns. More women than men were likely to own a gun for self-defense purposes and more likely to own only a handgun.

    On the whole, gun owners tended to be white, male, conservative and reside in rural areas, the survey found."

  14. 23 minutes ago, bearpants said:

    you make a good point here... I've always believed that the earth is going through some sort of cycle right now... historically the earth basically destroys itself every several million years, so maybe we are in the process of seeing that now... are humans helping out the cause? probably a little bit... but I have a hard time believing the current climate change is 100% human induced...

    Scientists have NEVER said it was 100% human induced, so I don't understand the leap.  And what you believe in this regard doesn't really amount to a hill of beans in the face of the mountain of scientific study and evidence that contradicts your belief.  

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