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no... you cant make me.... + dave ritchie when he had that awful first half of a season in montreal as well.

Yeah no kidding. A side from khari*, he had an above average qb in kg and a bunch of junk. Breaks my heart that we didnt win one for him. Blink, khari, and brown too.

He played well enough to win. Not well enough to carry us to the win. Just, just shy of doing that. He floated 2 deep balls to wide open guys who got tackled having to wait for the ball to get there. We scored a td on one of those drives, fg on the other. Also when the game was on the line and we had to score to win, we went to fg. He could have orchestrated a drive to score instead of a crazy long FG. That would have been, put the team on the back and win it my self stuff. Highly elite stuff. The floater not soo much. Easily his best game last season though. He 100% played well enough for us to win. Every guy who played that game has to look at the plays they didnt make that could have won the game. We had an awful lot of em.

wasnt gonna go there but yeah. maas looks like hes related to randy couture.

Ac got into a heavy spread system, and calmed his feet down. He matured with that and turned into the great we knew and feared. Ricky ray has touch to every part of the field. And he is a master of momentum passing, throwing short-medium passes on 2nd down that get you first down yardage. Also his teams have used crossing routes to bust seams, and rub routes to open guys up. Maas like nichols had that game attitude once he got in. Leadership, and confidence. That said I dont think nichols would sit on the bench for years just to be around the same team. I think hes the kind of guy who wants to play, as it should be.

The deep pass is easily his weakness. He misses a lot of deep attempts. He puts deep balls in safe spots to prevent turn overs. The stat from I think last week had us with one of the highest number of deep passes and among the fewest completions. He doesnt have the touch on deep balls.

Yeah. Gotta let football players be football players. Unless they are at the buck pierce level of injury concerns. Which nichols isnt. When they watch game tape the room is gonna explode for his block.

When wally is sniffing around your PR trying to nab people, you have done well.

A few times hammy was getting really good pressure on 2nd down in the red zone and killed our momentum. We see some silly play calling, though the TD to JFG was excellent play design and call. I dont think its confidence at all. A little bit of blocking, a lil bit better play calling, including sticking to the run more in the first 3/4 of the game.

Yeah the DB shuffle with roc on corner, walker on half and mo returning has been huge. Our DL and secondary are sorted now. The 2 lbers with wild hurt.....

To an extent I agree he holds back nichols. At the same time he limits the negative impact he can have on the game as well. Nature of the dink and dunk offense. Would be really interesting to see what nichols would do in an offense that was still possession oriented but also first down driven. He and the offense did do a fantastic job tnite with only 2 2 and outs. Tds in the other side of the field will be a hot topic this week again. But if we can continually drive the field, roll up field position AND protect the ball we will be in good shape. Its unreal how close the ratios are. The efficiency differential, and YPC are pretty steep. Not to mention how aggressive MR plays. Still a divide between elite tier and nichols imo. But he is in a great spot. It isnt allways transparent as fans which guys are locker room head cases. Which are legit leaders. When a guy is ride or die and brings that out in his team mates. But its not at all hard to tell that nichols is all of that. He and hardick and a couple others are the quality of leader and player that we havent seen in a long long time. Buck was a blood and guts guy. It seemed like the team around him wanted to bring it every play. But I dont think they had the confidence in him that he could take the game in his hands and win. And this team has that with nichols. Not an elite QB in my books, maybe thatll change. But seems like an elite leader at the qb position.

Originally I was going to. but 18 points, and just walking all over the cats from harris was too good. Its a deep 3 stars, any one of em could have been no1. That short punt was a thing of beauty too. Imo thomas should have gotten credit for the gang sack too.

you gotta have faith (in the process) ...BABY

1 Medlock. 6/8 long of 57. 60 yard average punting. Mostly from that short drop quick punt. 2 Harris. Pounded the ball all day. 14-107 2 catches for 21 yards. 3 Jake thomas. 1 sack 1 fumble recovery. But tons of pressure. One of the most under rated guys in the league with one of his best games. hh Darvin adams on the long TD pass. It was a great catch, and a foot on the throat play. Lots of guys could have been on the list. Nichols kept the offense rolling, though didnt cash in. Denny stepped up big early on catching every thing and filling the void from dressler. Randle with a big play and the usual blanket coverage. Trent corney had some really good pressure tnite too.

Thats a crazy switch. Cant even imagine some thing like that happening today. And what a sick nick name LOL!

After the previous dismal run we had people just want the team to insulate it self in winning. Bc, edm, and cal are a good bit better then us right now. Qb is the easiest and most frequent spot to dote on with credit and blame. Especially with our GC drought people want to look at if nichols is good enough to carry us to a cup win, or good enough to lead us in a gc win. But also to revel in the teams success. Its a lot better then what we did when struggling lol. agreed and thanks to you , the other posters and OP as well.

Agree, its also plop play calling. Probably right about it being the mix of a few things.

No joke. Weve had a couple guys leave to have good careers else where. Like dave mudge. But generally in the last 20 ish years id say we got more guys like that then we gave up. Hammer fans must have been soo sore with every throttling they got. Yeah cant say if he was just not in a mental state to be productive here. But our team doesnt give new players a ton of chances to show they have what we look for. But if you show it, you can stick around here for a very long time. I wanted more time for gurley too, but it worked out well. At current i like our wr core a lot. Though im hoping denny will find the fire again soon.

Dont think another team in sask works either. Also think QC would be a very good market. Id love for the maritimes to have a strong franchise but that would be such a hard franchise to make work. The riders are established and ingrained in sask culture. They wouldnt have that on the coast. Id worry with how spread out of the fans are it would sink after a tough stretch.

Also not a bowman fan at all. I would probably try to trade him. If jones still has a job he could net the first over all pick next year i imagine. I like that combo too, but how great are those guys and how much better does reily make em? Last year when the argos cut their wrs hazelton wasnt the guy people wanted iirc. Despite his size and the forums obsession with big wrs. That place is a puppy mill for WRs. I wouldnt want to pay a steep price for any of em, even though they are certainly very good football players.

Ahh that makes sense. I remembered he had the 1 asterisk ring. Which is funny because at one point he was more of a scrambler guy. Every once and a while a qb like that ages and stays more in the pocket and plays his best. Same with allen imo. Ac was great well before trestman. And they ran a similar offense. trestman sure fine tuned ac and the offense though. I mean ac/don/trestman created the meta for offensive systems in the cfl today. When ac broke out with the als it was a ton of 2 back sets, Hback/TE play etc. I remember us, and lots of teams trying to roll double tight against their cover 0. Old american pro form offenses. They really broke the mold and set the new standard. Older AC is the prototype of what you would want your qb to be to win a grey cup. But not really what teams seem to look for sadly.

In general gun slinging QBs who win get a lot of love. Even more so in the cfl. Takes alot of gusto to risk passes and let wrs make a play. Bowman was maybe the least reliable starter wr last in the last few years. He drops soo many. When you look at guys leaving, disappearing, others coming in and exploding like hazelton and zylstra I dont think id say he is carried by elite WRs. Id say he gives his WRs lots of chances to make plays, and brings the best out of his guys.

Wasnt he the back up for the first one iirc? The jeff garcia era. Or was that a 3rd? Hank>glenn for sure. Its the great but not great enough thing. Which is funny, in that khari is exempt for that. Shorter term QBs who flame out earlier seem to get that though.

A few of those are before my time (and crossing big football generations is tough as well) Dont think he hangs with ac either for sure. As much as i hated the als AC was as good as it gets in the modern era imo.