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				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep, and Usports. They should've tried to get a bunch of the Usports teams trialing this change before us if any thing. - 
	100%. I wonder if Sterns goes in at Wheatfall's WR spot, or if he goes back to slot and Mitchell finally bumps out to the WR spot? If the fit with him is as bad as it seems with zach/hogan/the offence, maybe we put some one like Wilson at that premium spot. Wouldn't mind if Echols got the look and sterns got an extra week to recover and prep for return. Haven't heard about Clercius but that looked bad, so I'm guessing corcoran goes in and cobb comes on. Wish we'd shake up the DL.
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				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Tbh, most of those people aren't even big NFL fans. Every big NFL fan I know is interested in football all over. They'll watch the state HS championship game, lots of ncaa games, and the odd cfl/spring league game. The ones who are stuck up, are pretty casual watchers who generally bandwagon hop to who ever is dominant. One of the big reasons why the NFL is the dominant sport league in north america is they've figured out that it's as much about stories for most people. Thats why they keep a true level playing ground and you don't see pandering to the mega markets. The NBA hasn't figured this out at all and struggles because of it. That's part of what makes the CFL great as well. While they love to pander to the argos and lions, and the riders, those teams aren't at significant advantages. (unless ricky ray is in the league) It's a league where every team is basically a small market team, even in big markets. The rivalrys run deep, and the connections between the teams do as well. What the CFL needs to do, is get the real heart of these stories out to the public more. Things like what Rourke said about the rules is great for this league. Even MBT calling out the BS of the schedule a year or two ago. Young fans don't want old school football where you play for the logo on the front with no name on the back of your jersey. They want to see all the color and personality. Football in general is hard to get to that at the pro level. If we drilled down to that and shared it, fans would come. Thats why last chance U did soo well, the human element and drama. Same with ESPNs old cancelled football show playmakers. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
It will put a whole lot of pressure on them for sure, but that is going to happen any way with the clock being started automatically. I bet it will be a gigantic mess the first time any team goes into hurry-up/no-huddle, and when it's late in a half. If the clock is running and the O is lined up, the ref crew will have to rush to set the play. The refs are going to have a big big adjustment in this. It's been pretty slack for a long time. Same goes for when they huddle up after a play to figure out if they should've tossed a flag when they didn't. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
With the upright change, and FGs basically being XPT range or Hail Marys, If I was a coach, I would be practicing the on side punt every day and start running it out. If you're on the 40-25 and looking at a 46-yard field goal or longer, and if you have to go more than 5/6 yards to get a first, the onside punt will make a whole lot of sense. The automatic time starts as soon as the previous play is blown dead, which could allow an effective hurry-up or no-huddle team to paralyze defenses. I also don't think anyone is really looking at the slower game/teams either. We've seen lots of 5-8 minute clock eating drives in the past. plays that keep the clock running, with slow teams (like us) will take a lot more game time, rather than making the time it takes to play the game longer. I could see Quarters where you see 3 or fewer possessions. Especially if you are grinding a drive from deep in your zone. No it isn't. But I think this is a stepping stone. Some one said we are frogs in a pot of water and the element has been turned on. I believe this is a move to prepare the fan base for far more americanization of our game. Why would you push this through part of the approval process, not bringing it to the PA or the rules committee or CIS, this late in the season? If this was the main chunk of changes you were going to make, and you really thought it would make the game better, you would announce this during GC week. If you didn't think it would go well with fans, you would do it right after the GC. I believe the UFL came calling, and I think we will see more news of this nature or of merger/joint partnership etc with them before the start of the next season. Either GC week, or before free agency. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He is, but this wasn't run through the full rules committee. It was just to the BOG/prime movers league wide. Not surprised in the least either. He's as purist as it gets. And yeah, he's the last guy to want to change and adapt to the game. I 100% believe that and expect that here. They act like qbs don't throw over the middle because of the uprights, defences take that away and force you to try and throw the wide out. WRs have used the uprights countless times late in plays for picks on DBs and get open as well. They drag across the middle then catch it just past the hash mark. Yep. Teams will punt from the 40-45, and even if they go for it 30-40, that doesn't mean scoring will increase. It just means drives will go 3 plays longer. And we will see a massive hit to red zone efficency between the rediculous FG range and back of the end zone chopped off, will only lead to more stalled drives. I'm not sure Wade is really on board with all the changes. I think the league is quickly becoming unviable financially for half the teams if not more. I bet the BOG was brow beaten in this, some thing like, its either this or in 2 years it's a 4 team league with no tv deal. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
bob tweeted paraphrasing from mos, I guess coaches show was last night? And apparently mos hates all the rule changes. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I bet it was written in crayon on construction paper. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Good on rourke, agree with him. Madanis article is putrid. https://3downnation.com/2025/09/22/opinion-the-cfl-finally-delivers-big-with-changes-that-will-make-the-game-pop/ Wade supporting it isn’t a surprise but still a disappointment. But it sounds like they didn’t consult usports at all which is criminal. https://3downnation.com/2025/09/22/blue-bombers-president-wade-miller-calls-cfl-changes-positive-step-insists-they-will-not-impact-bisons/ This is what we get for having a tsn cronie run the league. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I think joint agreement or merger with the ufl in the off season is far more likely. ah yes time to punt from the opponent 30 yard line. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I wonder how the league, and half the teams are scheming up ways to pay for all the surface changes for franchises that are already hemoraghing money. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I bet the difference is modest for us, but very impactful for teams. Some teams, like us, really struggle to get the calls in quick enough. Other teams run tempo very well. This will yield an advantage, but how much and for who is tough to gauge. I think the teams that run tempo well will always benefit though. It's one of the better scenarios we could have ended up with when they talked vaugely about drastic changes. That said, I don't think the changes are going to have the impact they for see. I don't think the game will be any more exciting, we wont see more TDs, and we will see significantly more FG attempts. They thought long and hard about the hash mark move. And really believed it would juice up scoring a lot. It did very briefly, then Defenses adjusted and it only made O vs D more stale. I also think that this will only lead into further changes after 27. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
was he one of the people who said it was a done deal with the xfl too? It’s honestly been too long. Mid season announcement, I expect any changes put in place to kick in next year. this could be the last grey cup under proper rules if people are right. I sure hope not. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
league needs to make drastic strides to be more profitable. but short of selling out fixing that is a long hard road. Teams need to take action to grow their market. not many are doing a good job of that. But hamilton, ottawa, montreal and bc should all be able to turn a profit as well. edmonton needs work, calgary needs intervention, toronto needs a miracle. - 
	same calls he made all night though. izr/main line option, followed by draw.
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				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That would make sense, but tsn mails it in a lot with the cfl. Sponsorship, streaming and gambling etc doesn’t make sense with significant changes to the cfl game. nailed it. I think the UFL is far more likely. they are in bad shape and desperate. They could always go back, but it would be catastrophic. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
yep. might break 100 passing yards! yeah that’s the biggest fear for me. Realistically, I don’t think it can be field size changes. too many teams on bad turf as it is. Next to that, 4 downs would be criminal especially on our field. it’d be un watchable. True minor league agreement with the nfl? Nfl return and scoring rules? I’m worried but maybe it won’t be some thing awful like that. Could also be the previously rumoured ufl/xfl merger deal. Streaming and gambling crap doesn’t fit the sound of this. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I got a baaaaaad feeling about this news. small chance it’s gonna be some thing tiny and pointless. but i kind of doubt it. - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
https://3downnation.com/2025/09/21/commissioner-stewart-johnston-to-announce-significant-changes-to-cfl-game/ But i can’t find how you’re supposed to watch it etc - 
	
	
				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
not seeing any thing, wondering if they meant it’ll start in 20 minutes. any one got twitter to check? probably break the news first - 
	I’m not sure that we still have zach. maybe we will get real lucky for the stretch run but the amount of high hits thatve caused him to miss time this year is as serious as a heart attack
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				Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
so the commish called a press conference for 1 eastern regarding a major announcement on significant game changes for the cfl - 
	yep. did it with an incredible D and supporting cast.
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	no games over 250 since 19 either. And none of his games or 250 or more have even the same number of tds as ints. Since the end of 18, he’s had 2 games with more tds than picks. he was talking about strev though yeah? Maybe that’s what he was confusing. i mean that is 4 years ago and a hell of a lot has happened in that time lol.
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	yes, but that’s not nearly 11 completion or attempts. divisional all star is not close to the same as perennial mop, and 1/3 of a season does not an mop or all star make. 2/3 of a year is not the start to a year. Let’s look further at his season last week 11. 3 games under 202 yards. 4 games with as many or more picks than tds 2 games over 250 yards passing 6 tds in 7 games then 1 game with 6 tds and 430 yards passing. The second half of last year is massively padded by the 1 game against edmonton. Take that out and in the final stretch of the year he had 1900 yards 7 TDS 6 ints. 3 good games, 3 ok games, 11 bad games. Unfortunately, Zach isn’t a game manager. If he could be a strong game manager getting the ball out quickly that would help off set issues a lot. but he just isn’t that guy.
 
