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I don’t think so. The D is showing improvement already by adding a guy like Allen and person for that matter. The d is a woods away from prob being optimized. the o is a problem for sure but they are about 4th or 5th in points scored ahead of everyone in the west except Sask after their game. 3 east teams lead the way in points scored then it’s bombers by 14 over Sask (Sask has yet to play game 9)

Daddy O'Shea knows best. Duh. So far Mitchell has not looked anything like a great receiver or worth his salary.

I'm afraid that they have already played the best they are capable of. What you see is what we have- a .500 team.

Just pulled out some numbers about the long field goal decision: Kicking: 57-yard field goals had been hit 61% of the time (since 2005) Missed FGs 57 yards and farther had been returned for TD 4% of the time (1/25) Punting: Sheahan's punts from the plus 50: average field position after was the 15 (6 punts) Drives down 4-8 points, 0:40-1:15 remaining starting from the 25 and in: 4 TDs in 18 drives (including the Crumback in 2023) Going for it: 3rd and 1 converted 85% of time 3rd and 2 converted 66% of time (It looked like was 1.5 yards on 3rd down. I really don't think it was a full 2)

Bombers are 4th in the league in points scored through 9 games. Hamilton killing everyone then Toronto then Ottawa (played 10 games tho) then us then Sask (played 8 games ) so after 9 games bombers have more points than every team in the west prob minus Sask (they need to score 15 points to pass the bombers total) more than Montreal and less than Hamilton Ottawa and Toronto. Kinda middle of the pack in terms of points scored. Defensively around 4th or 5th again. bombers are the definition of average this year. Both O and D are average. We have given up 5 or 6 more points than we have scored. For all the Hamilton has a great D talk they have given up more points than us but have also scored way more than us.

2nd win by Strev was accomplished with 2 return td's and a D touchdown. Think Wilson would have won that game easily also..

Streveler 2-0... Zach below. 500... and did Zach actually take strevelers job in 2019? Streveler had the bum ankle and both guys split time in the playoffs run. Just funny how the guy making top dollar gets all kinds of excuses but the backup just sucks.

On the offense, OB mentioned that if you look at it by quarters, we really struggle in the third quarter. To me that shows an inability to make adjustments which is a huge mark against Hogan.

Well Zach has shown he can actually be a winning starting qb in the league. He took strevelers job even. I mean what has Streveler actually done besides have 1 good game in 5 years now. Streveler isn’t and never will be a starting QB in this league without injury. He’s proven he’s not good enough. Honestly take away the fur coat 5 6 years ago. What’s he done. Throw for 150 yards a game. With more picks than tds also. Streveler has always been how he currently is but he used to be able to run ppl over, he can’t. Dude was never the pocket passer and at 31 32 he’s not going to be. A fully healthy Streveler who can still run has value, an injured one who can’t does not.

They tried rolling him out in the 3rd and Ottawa just keyed right in on it.

I found it odd they weren’t really putting a spy on Crum, or if they did the spy was getting totally washed out.

Nah blitzing invites him to run for 20-30 when there is no one left after he beats the rush.

Playing upwards of 9 guys all 10 yards off the l.o.s just invites him to run and et up yards, and in a game where a lot of guys were having issues tackling....is a bad plan

That 2015 OL was pretty awful. Willy got the living **** beat out of him. He was rocked helmet to helmet in the 2015 home opener (in the first quarter iirc) and was never the same player afterward.

They were also worried about crums legs

There wasn't enough time for Ottawa to do that twice (which they needed to do) so I don't hate the D playing that way. Worst thing to do is give up a quick score. Got to make the O earn it with a long mistake free drive.

So when it's collaros it's everything else, but when it's streveler he just sucks right?

To be frank, I'm not an Xs and Os guy but I agree that they were too passive.

More OC and couple that with a weak reciever group and no idea how to best use what you have...we gonna be skuffling I also don't think he knows how to scheme and run stuff to work off of later in a game to suck defences in...he almost does some stuff assbackwards too...and is an inexperienced and poor play caller...we've seen that in spades And with ZC not what he used to be..but trying to fit an offence geared toward old ZC...without the skillset in his recievers that made that flourish...well there's another issue. Hopefully Jackson gets some authority here as he does know how to best use skill sets...and manage play calling better...but we have Osh who just thinks everything is ookie dookie and can't see issues...so we may be in tough with his blinders on I think we have talent to be successful in the right scheme with ZC...and if we could get a legit game breaker...opens it up more...I just don't think we have the minds to accomplish it tho...at least not in this current configuration...that's my take/observation

D looked good overall but I would have liked to see some adjustments from Younger. I get you’re playing to a two score lead late but literally all Crum has is the short pass. He can’t hit those intermediate to deep routes, the schemes were playing as if Dru Brown was in the game. I just would have liked to see them be a little more agressive.

Willy also cared way too much about what people were saying about him…. Always reading articles and getting in his own head. That and getting beat up really torpedoed his career.

Well is it ZC or is it the OC? I mean we all agree the O sucks, incredible that we can all agree on that. We all agreed the O wasn’t great last year either. It appears to me tho that hogan is running the same crap buck did last year. The stuff that didn’t work. When Zach was rolling out more the O flowed better (see first half). He didn’t do that as much in quarters 3 and 4 if at all, there’s factors to that like what appeared to be constant pressure up the middle (hello kolo) and play calling which none of us really know what hogan called but when you going 2 and out for almost 2 straight quarters, safe to say it’s not just the QB or OL or Receivers or Brady.

In spite of Crum and Ottawa's O looking compent towards the end and our Defence looking gassed, I thought our D had a decent outing. The better communication, the insertion of a couple of taller guys, although rookies, in the secondary, and better D-line play with greater rotation gives me hope for the future. I liked Allen's play and I think that Vaval can be a solid DB, too. Schmekel was a revelation yesterday. (I watched him closely during the Stamps game, in which he played well, too.) The guy is enthusiastic and has a motor. I didn't like some of Younger's play calling in the 4th though. Too often I saw 3 guys on the line and 9 off by 5-10 yards. Souter said that they were daring Ottawa to run but I saw Ottawa saying....okay, we can run but we can also pass. And, they took advantage of it. Our offence, well, that's for another posting.

Zach did have a clutch run to help set up the winning FG.

I miss Darvin Adam’s. come to think of it, I miss 2019 😄