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60 buys????

2 hours ago, Brandon said:

60 buys????

Yup.  It was poorly promoted.  AAA has Kenny booked for an upcoming show though Im not sure he'd have worked the PPV due to AEW.  But 60 is bad.

NXT debut on USA did 1.17 million viewers.  Definitely a success.  It was a one hour episode (hour two on the WWE Network).  In two weeks, the full two hours will air on USA and run head to head with AEW on TNT.

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

NXT debut on USA did 1.17 million viewers.  Definitely a success.  It was a one hour episode (hour two on the WWE Network).  In two weeks, the full two hours will air on USA and run head to head with AEW on TNT.

NXT - 2 hours.

Raw - 3 hours.

Smackdown - 3 hours? 

 

Are they really trying to produce 8 hours of content each week? Yikes. 

8 minutes ago, JCon said:

NXT - 2 hours.

Raw - 3 hours.

Smackdown - 3 hours? 

 

Are they really trying to produce 8 hours of content each week? Yikes. 

I think its going to be SD 2 hours on FOX and the third hour on FS1.  Plus, a sportscentre style show on FOX (or FS1, cant remember) on, I think, Tuesdays.  They want wrestling every night to choke out competition.

If you're a fan, you're going to have 2 hours NXT on Wednesday and 2 hours AEW on wednesday also.  Plus, 2 hours Impact on Friday (they should probably move to tuesday or thursday but right now want to run after SD thinking WWE fans will switch over).

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I think its going to be SD 2 hours on FOX and the third hour on FS1.  Plus, a sportscentre style show on FOX (or FS1, cant remember) on, I think, Tuesdays.  They want wrestling every night to choke out competition.

If you're a fan, you're going to have 2 hours NXT on Wednesday and 2 hours AEW on wednesday also.  Plus, 2 hours Impact on Friday (they should probably move to tuesday or thursday but right now want to run after SD thinking WWE fans will switch over).

Even when I was young and at my peak wrestling watching, including attending local shows and watching WWF/WCW/ECW, I don't think I could consume that much wrestling. Hooboy, that's a lot. 

4 minutes ago, JCon said:

Even when I was young and at my peak wrestling watching, including attending local shows and watching WWF/WCW/ECW, I don't think I could consume that much wrestling. Hooboy, that's a lot. 

Nitro and RAW alone were tough.  I recall when WCW added Thunder, it was like...how the heck is anyone going to watch that much.  

I think part of whats driving WWE to want completely separate RAW & SD is knowing some fans wont watch both.  Part of the reason they created NXT was to be their "indy" alternative to ROH.  

Lots of rumours about Impact being interested in buying ROH...I had heard WWE was talking to them too.

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Nitro and RAW alone were tough.  I recall when WCW added Thunder, it was like...how the heck is anyone going to watch that much.  

I think part of whats driving WWE to want completely separate RAW & SD is knowing some fans wont watch both.  Part of the reason they created NXT was to be their "indy" alternative to ROH.  

Lots of rumours about Impact being interested in buying ROH...I had heard WWE was talking to them too.

And those were only two hour shows! We would watch RAW live. I taped WCW and fast forwarded through the commercials. Same with ECW. 

 

6 hours ago, Rich said:

 

Who says Kayfabe is dead.  lol 

John Morrisson signed back with WWE.  Too bad as I thought he'd be excellent in AEW.

Jerry Lawler returns to commentary, working RAW on mondays.  Cole goes permanently to SD.

NXT is loaded this Wednesday (for AEW's debut).   NXT will have limited commercials.

AEW continues to negotiate with TSN for Canadian viewing.  If they dont get it done, it can be viewed on fite tv (for a small fee).

Rick Bognar aka Rick Titan aka fake Razor Ramon died.  Age 49. 

13 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Rick Bognar aka Rick Titan aka fake Razor Ramon died.  Age 49. 

I remember seeing him in Winnipeg way back in the day.  One of the reasons I tell people to go check out indy shows is because you never know what future "name" wrestler you might get to see.

18 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

I remember seeing him in Winnipeg way back in the day.  One of the reasons I tell people to go check out indy shows is because you never know what future "name" wrestler you might get to see.

Yeah! I saw Don Callis tweet about working with him in Winnipeg.  Its always the battle when you're promoting local shows, trying to make people understand that this is where the big stars learned.  Think of those 12 people that saw Chris Jericho wrestle at Bumpers Bar for example. lol   And of course, Callis himself has been a surprise guest on two of our shows (he was backstage last week too).  How many guys in Winnipeg have had opportunities with Japan, WWE, ROH, Mexico, AEW, Impact etc.

You just never know...

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Yeah! I saw Don Callis tweet about working with him in Winnipeg.  Its always the battle when you're promoting local shows, trying to make people understand that this is where the big stars learned.  Think of those 12 people that saw Chris Jericho wrestle at Bumpers Bar for example. lol   And of course, Callis himself has been a surprise guest on two of our shows (he was backstage last week too).  How many guys in Winnipeg have had opportunities with Japan, WWE, ROH, Mexico, AEW, Impact etc.

You just never know...

I also think it goes even further than guys who are just breaking in.  When you brought in AJ, he was already established but Kenny wasn't (at least to non-locals)... people would kill to see that match now.   Lots of missed opportunities when you don't go to the shows.

 

Wasn't Titan on the Tony Condello shows that used to air on local tv? I'm thinking 92-93 ish timeline? I remember seeing Jericho and Lance Storm and Don Callis as the Natural and Chi Chi Cruz. I'm pretty sure Bognar was on those shows also.

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Wasn't Titan on the Tony Condello shows that used to air on local tv? I'm thinking 92-93 ish timeline? I remember seeing Jericho and Lance Storm and Don Callis as the Natural and Chi Chi Cruz. I'm pretty sure Bognar was on those shows also.

Yep.  Callis tweeted out an old IWA video back in December showing some of the names that came through town back then.  Titan can be seen around the 17 second mark.

 

2 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Yep.  Callis tweeted out an old IWA video back in December showing some of the names that came through town back then.  Titan can be seen around the 17 second mark.

 

Bad News Allen. Loved watching him on Stampede Wrestling. 

 

11 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Awesome... was getting a bit nervous that a deal wouldn't be done in time for the 1st show.

11 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

That's great news. I was worried it would be on some obscure channel. 

Pretty cool to see wrestling back on TSN. Just as it is to see it back on TNT. 

And what a week for the business.  Perhaps the biggest week in...who knows how long.  

Predictions?  I had someone message me yesterday to say AEW will beat all wwe shows this week. Not going to happen. In fact I think nxt will win week one based on how loaded their show is and the no commercials. But it’s a long game. 

I was talking to a significant industry person who told me aew is actually in the position of their strength (wrestling) not being enough against nxt because nxt has focused on that very thing plus they have deeper roster. 

Wwe will pay anything to win. It looks like Punk will end up back there.   

ROH is even offering big deals to keep key guys locking up Matt Taven.  They have Marty Scurll and Bandido both coming due.  Both should end up in aew but roh will offer big deals. 

Definitely an amazing time to be a wrestling fan. 

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Definitely an amazing time to be a wrestling fan. 

I wouldn't say an amazing time, but definitely the first time to get excited in the last 15 years.

 

14 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I wouldn't say an amazing time, but definitely the first time to get excited in the last 15 years.

 

That sounds pretty amazing. 

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-announces-new-partnership-with-all-elite-wrestling-becoming-canadian-home-of-aew-dynamite-1.1374920

Official release from TSN. Dynamite will also be available on demand, which is nice.