The Unknown Poster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Im surprised he's leaving Detroit to be honest. Supposedly, St Louis is out and now Buffalo looks out. And MLSE has a private jet landing in Detroit today, scheduled to take off three minutes later. Hmmmm... Why on earth would he want to go to Toronto, other than loads of cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Toronto seems likely. Why? Who knows. Maybe he's tired of making the playoffs or he's gonna be coach and GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 He gets an extra month of vacation with the Leafs! Not my joke, saw it on Twitter lol. johnzo and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Down Goes Brown @DownGoesBrown I hope Babcock enjoys his time on that plane, since it's the last time for a while he'll see two wings with Leaf logos doing their job. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 It apparently takes $6M for Babcock to rescind his "I just want to win" criteria fromhis checklist. Blue-urns and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I guess there is ego involved in taking a mess and making it a winner. He has options that are better chances to win sooner, but to make generational money and presumably be promised every opportunity to win eventually, why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Sounds like it will be coach / GM dual role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Gonna be a long road ahead for the leafs. That team sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Gonna be a long road ahead for the leafs. That team sucks. I don't know. I thought firing Carlyle was a mistake, he had them battling for a playoff spot. I think Babcock should be able to turn things around rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I dunno. Think they are gonna rebuild. And I think it will be a while. Gotta wait to see how long he signs for to confirm if it's a real rebuild or just a retool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I dunno. Think they are gonna rebuild. And I think it will be a while. Gotta wait to see how long he signs for to confirm if it's a real rebuild or just a retool Rebuilding is so hard in the NHL. Sure you can trade guys for draft picks but they take years to materialize. You gotta try and build around what you already have. Full-scale rebuilds just plain don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 8 years 50 million. Leafs it is. Wow. First 3 years =8 million per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Hopefully this means that Kessel and Phaneuf are out the door. Babcock doesn't accept passengers on his bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Hopefully this means that Kessel and Phaneuf are out the door. Babcock doesn't accept passengers on his bus. Babcock was reportedly strongly interested in acquiring Phaneuf at the trade deadline so I imagine he will stick around at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I haven't seen any mention of Babcock being the GM also. Would a coach / GM have the discipline to build for 3-5 years out, which is what the Leafs say they are doing? If Babcock isn't the GM, the Leafs approach seems really weird. The team has committed to a slash n' burn rebuild to address their massive talent deficit ... but they aren't building from front office / player personnel dept. out. Instead they've blown megabucks on a coach who's had the luxury of a very consistent talent pipeline for the last few years. Plus, let's say Babcock coaxes some overachievement out of the rebuilding years' roster -- he just sets the rebuild back in terms of draft picks and in terms of discipline to stick to it, because if there's hope flickering for the Leafs, there'll be huge pressure from Leaf Nation towards the same old short-term thinking that's burned them so badly. And if the rebuild works and the Leafs become a contender in 2019 or 2020, Babcock's welcome in Toronto will almost certainly be worn out by then. So I don't get how this works for them. Is this just a PR move, one to placate Leaf Nation with a big signing? Whoever the Leafs' GM turns out to be, I hope they like Babcock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I honestly think the Leafs entire rebuild plan was to try and win the McDavid lottery and nothing more. Why else fire Carlyle and install a pure scapegoat as head coach? They tried to dive down the standings to win McDavid, they didn't and now they go all in on Babcock which is not a scorched earth rebuilding move. They will pretty much have to just have Shanahan/Babcock be the GM too cause who is going to want to go into a situation where they'd be a GM on a team where the team is more committed to the coach and the coach and whatever Shanahan calls himself have said they have final say on players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Nothing the Leafs do makes sense anymore. Why else would you get rid of a Carlyle? The NHL has made a mockery of salaries for years now. The Leafs want to extend that mockery to coach's salaries. Maybe it's their plan to get into BMO field too. They could all play the foolsball game together. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 To answer the original question: the place where coaching careers go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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