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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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42 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

That's a pretty positive interview.  I always worry that people some in and want to change Star Trek so much.  Im a traditionalist in some sense but I have no issue with (in fact want them to) modernize things like sets and SFX.  For example, I dont mind the look of the new movie Enterprise except its gigantic for no relevant reason.  So to me its like, dont make changes just for the sake of change.

Dont make a new Starfleet star ship that looks like a plate glass window just because you can "change" things.  If I was the studio hiring, I'd want to know that my [producer and showrunner loves Trek, respects Trek and wants to take Star Trek and make it better from a storytelling perspective not what JJ did which was "The biggest problem with Star Trek is that it's Star Trek".  If you feel that way, go make a show called Space Trip and you can originate any ideas or designs you want.  Star Trek should be Star Trek.

So Fuller is saying the right things.  I just hope its relateable and recognizable as Star Trek.

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Interesting development:

Netflix and CBS Studios International today announced a landmark international licensing agreement for the new STAR TREK television series. Netflix will be the exclusive premiere home of STAR TREK in 188 countries (excluding the US and Canada). Each episode of the new series will be available globally within 24 hours of its U.S. premiere. Additionally, all 727 existing episodes of the iconic STAR TREK television library – including "Star Trek: The Original Series," "Star Trek: The Next Generation," "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine," "Star Trek: Voyager" and "Star Trek: Enterprise" will be available on Netflix around the world by the end of 2016  - Latino Review

Since this excludes Canada, one would assume this confirms they have a terrestrial channel provider to air the show here.  What's interesting is that one of the things that pushed CBS to develop a new series was Netflix' interest in doing the same.  Netflix liked the large interest in Star Trek on their platform and spoke with CBS about developing a new series.  CBS, in turn, decided to do it themselves and pull their catalog from Netflix to move it exclusively to the CBS Streaming platform.  So this is a partial reversal of that. 

From StarTrek.com:

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The Bell Media rollout for the new Star Trek series in Canada will mirror the launch in the United States. The first episode will premiere on Canada’s most-watched broadcast network, CTV, on the same night as CBS. All remaining episodes will initially be televised on Bell Media’s cable networks, Space (in English) and Z (in French), and then later exclusively on CraveTV, Bell Media’s streaming video-on-demand service. The Star Trek television library will return to Space (in English) and debut on Cinépop (in French), and will also be found among CraveTV’s leading lineup of premium television series.

http://www.startrek.com/article/international-broadcasters-set-for-new-star-trek-series#sthash.RKWU7tWu.dpuf

Really not a fan of all these separate streaming services.  Netflix, Shomi, Crave TV, I'm not going to pay for all of them.

Already have Netflix and a fan of a lot of their original content. so I'm not going to get Shomi and / or Crave.  Also, Netflix is unaffiliated with a network, so they are more likely to get content from a wider range of sources.

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VERY unhappy to hear the plan is to move this to Crave exclusively.  Not cool.  Unless the series is "cant miss", people will wait for the season to be finished and watch it on Netflix or get Crave and binge it.  Annoyed. 

Makes more sense to make licensing deals with established streaming services like Netflix.  Cant see how all these various services will ever make enough to make it worth it.  Its one thing for a steaming service to be a companion to a network station, like HBO GO, but to HAVE to get the service in order to see a program?  Dont like it.
 

In time, everything will be delivered Over The Top so I guess this is the wave of the future.  But seems like an inconvenience to me.  But presumeably Bell is paying CBS a lot of money.  Rogers did the same with WWE Network where they paid so much for the rights, WWE couldnt say no.

The Crave plan might just be repeats after initial showings on Space.

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2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

VERY unhappy to hear the plan is to move this to Crave exclusively. 

The article said "All remaining episodes will initially be televised on Bell Media’s cable networks, Space..." It will be on Space and repeated on Crave.

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That's how I read it. On Space then Crave TV.

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And then later exclusively on CraveTV, Bell Media’s streaming video-on-demand service

do they mean the reruns will be exclusive to crave or the first run will eventually be exclusive. 

4 hours ago, Rich said:

Really not a fan of all these separate streaming services.  Netflix, Shomi, Crave TV, I'm not going to pay for all of them.

Already have Netflix and a fan of a lot of their original content. so I'm not going to get Shomi and / or Crave.  Also, Netflix is unaffiliated with a network, so they are more likely to get content from a wider range of sources.

Agreed, I only have Netflix.  And unless I see something amazing about another streaming service, I won't be getting anything else.

We have a show name and a winner in ugliest starship design.

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As long as it can kick ass it doesn't matter. Not like in Enterprise.

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The cgi looked home made and apparently the ship design is not final. I imagine the blowback will result in changes. 

Suddenly im very worried as no one with any sense could come up with that. That design is actually an early design for a new enterprise when the first film was in planning stages. 

Appreviation os STD?  Someone is an idiot.  Fire Fuller. 

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Moonves says Star Trek Discovery (STD) is already profitable due to their international licensing deals.  Says they will do 13 episodes initially but expects the series to go on long term.  Good thing its already profitable what with that horrendous teaser trailer.

The CGI isn't finished, but the ship looks like crap.  The saucer looks good but the rest looks like it has some kind of Klingon bird of prey influence.

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2 hours ago, Logan007 said:

The CGI isn't finished, but the ship looks like crap.  The saucer looks good but the rest looks like it has some kind of Klingon bird of prey influence.

There are rumours that the plot involves a co-branded mission between federation and Klingons where he ship is half of each. I don't believe that because that's incredibly stupid. They just used a design that was rejected in the 70's. But hopefully the backlash causes them to rethink it. 

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

There are rumours that the plot involves a co-branded mission between federation and Klingons where he ship is half of each. I don't believe that because that's incredibly stupid. They just used a design that was rejected in the 70's. But hopefully the backlash causes them to rethink it. 

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-trek-discovery-ship-design-based-cancelled-time-travel-movie-concept-art-547755

12 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

There are rumours that the plot involves a co-branded mission between federation and Klingons where he ship is half of each. I don't believe that because that's incredibly stupid. They just used a design that was rejected in the 70's. But hopefully the backlash causes them to rethink it. 

Exactly.  The Klingons and Federation have never done anything together that early in canon.  Plus it's called the USS Discovery.  What Klingon cares about discovering anything?

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Also if they did a co-program you wouldn't take a federation saucer section and stitch it to a Klingon drive section. That's fundamentally stupid. 

Im a bit concerned they are not releasing any information. Makes me think they are behind schedule if they aren't sure of thinks like premise and characters. Releasing that video was a terrible mistake.

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i wonder how man seasons of every variation of star trek there has been. Ill bet its more then the simpsons has seasons. I wonder what more they could do? Im rewatching some of the kinda old stuff atm. Grew up on it pretty good stuff. Never watched the new movies or the last series with the guy from quantum leap/major league back to the minors. 

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

i wonder how man seasons of every variation of star trek there has been. Ill bet its more then the simpsons has seasons. I wonder what more they could do? Im rewatching some of the kinda old stuff atm. Grew up on it pretty good stuff. Never watched the new movies or the last series with the guy from quantum leap/major league back to the minors. 

Star Trek: TOS 3 seasons of around 26 episodes each (79)

ST: TNG: 7 seasons of around 25 episodes each (178)

ST: DS9: 7 seasons of around 25 episodes each (176)

ST: Voyager: 7 seasons at 24 episodes each (172)

ST Enterprise: 4 seasons at 23 episodes each. (98)

2 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Star Trek: TOS 3 seasons of around 26 episodes each (79)

ST: TNG: 7 seasons of around 25 episodes each (178)

ST: DS9: 7 seasons of around 25 episodes each (176)

ST: Voyager: 7 seasons at 24 episodes each (172)

ST Enterprise: 4 seasons at 23 episodes each. (98)

Do we throw in the animated series too?

2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Do we throw in the animated series too?

You can if you want to. It's not a network series in Prime Time like the others.

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