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The Star Trek Thread!

http://www.latino-review.com/news/star-trek-exclusive-trek-is-going-to-return-to-tv

 

So, GREAT news, Trekkers, CBS is looking to bring Star Trek back to TV.

 

The last we heard of a Star Trek TV series, was around 2006 before the Abrams movie planted its flag and destroyed most of what we knew (except Spock and - presumably  the plot of Star Trek: Enterprise)  there were two competing versions: Bryce Zabel (writer, Dark Skies) and J. Michael Straczynski (Babylon 5, but I like crediting him as the good writer on The Real Ghostbusters) pitched a version called “Star Trek: Reboot the Universe” that actually made it online in PDF form.

 

The second was developed closer to the JJ reboot and was written by producer Geoffrey Thorne, novelist and writer on things like Leverage and Criminal Intent and was called Star Trek: Federation and was conceptualized with producer Robert Burnett, Bryan Singer (the X-Men director and producer of TV’s House among others) and Christopher (director of Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation). This other series wouldn’t reboot the Star Trek universe, but would vault it forward past the DS9 and Voyager series timelines into a far flung future where the Utopia Federation that we knew from other TV series had become boring and complacent.

 

Federation would have seen the titular group reduced to a mere peacekeeping force as the old ways broke apart. Vulcans withdraw from the United Federation of Planets and reunify with the Romulans, the Bajorans of Deep Space Nine would have also withdrawn and become a planet full of religious monks, like a “Tibet in space.” The Klingons wouldn’t be as warrior-obsessed anymore, but would instead be warrior mystics. The Ferengi would have a female Nagus. The Cardassians would have abandoned war and become an artist/philosopher race.

In essence, Federation would have advanced the timeline of the Star Trek Universe far enough in the future to re-define some of the characters that had been the same since the original series’ inception.

 

We don’t have too many details about the new Star Trek series CBS is going to get working on, but I spent some time filling you in on Federation, because it seems like the same people who made that pitch could be involved. Bryan Singer's name has been mentioned for the new CBS Trek as a possible Executive Producer through his Bad Hat Harry productions. While "Star Trek: Reboot the Universe" was invalidated by 2008's movie Trek, Star Trek: Federation still has a trio of enthusiastic producers, a script and a writer ready to go should CBS decide to give Singer the ahead to develop this new series. 

 

Robert Burnett is rumored to be working on a non-Trek project with Skydance Productions (Skydance worked with Paramount, McQuarrie and Bad Robot on M:I 5) and simultaneously keeping one foot in the Trek world. He's currently producing (one of the producers) a project independent of all previously mentioned parties,  Star Trek: Axanar, a 90-minute fan-made feature film about "The Four Years War," as mentioned in the TOS episode "Whom Gods Destroy." The film has scraped up and impressive cast and released “Prelude to Axanar” last year to show how this great venture can be pulled off on a fan-donated budget:

 

That’s the sort of Star Trek product Brunett can use as an example of how producing a reasonably-budgeted TV series set in the Star Trek Universe this day and age should be a piece of cake.

 

Back to our Federation three:

 

CBS is interested in Bryan Singer developing (and Singer reportedly loves Prelude to Axanar) and Federation co-conspirator Chris McQuarrie was still game for the project as of last December, if Twitter is to be believed.

 

As far as when to expect some sort of official announcement about who snagged the NEW Trek production job, that’s a bit tougher to predict.

 

Star Trek 3 seems to be the Trek Paramount would like us to focus on (Elba for Mogh of the House of Martok, right Simon Pegg?), Singer is only tweeting about making the new X-Men movie and McQuarrie is wrapping up the edit on Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation for later this year. The Star Trek: Federation story document still exists, though, and I’m told Geoffrey Thorne might have taken that treatment all the way to a pilot script before the project cooled, which would allow this show to get off the ground much faster.

 

For the sharp-eye’d Trek fan, all eyes are on Star Trek: Axanar (official site here) to show off what Trek on a budget can look like. If that can work and CBS can see it work, then we might get a riff on Star Trek: Federation. Either way, CBS is convinced it's a good idea to probe the idea of a Star Trek TV show, so TV Trek’s likely on the way.

 

I’ve been saying it since summer of 2005…

 

...no, I’ve been saying it since summer of 1990: There should ALWAYS be Star Trek on TV

 

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24 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Normally you have to get past the first season to get to the good stuff but in ENT's case you had to get through the first 2 season to get to the good stuff.

 

 

I like Bakula. But he was all wrong for that role. The supporting actors weren't bad though. 

31 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Normally you have to get past the first season to get to the good stuff but in ENT's case you had to get through the first 2 season to get to the good stuff.

 

 

Nah, I watched the first 2 seasons and then episode's here and there.  Nothing grabbed at me.

11 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I like Bakula. But he was all wrong for that role. The supporting actors weren't bad though. 

Really?  I found them all so generic.  Bakula was the only one that brought some flavor to it.

I think the problem was that there were too many pretty boys on the show.  No one was just...normal or different.

Oh and I forgot about Dr. Phlox.  I liked him too.  He was at least different.

25 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

Nah, I watched the first 2 seasons and then episode's here and there.  Nothing grabbed at me.

Well there's your problem. 3 was one giant storyline. 4 was 2 parters, 3 parters.

21 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

Oh and I forgot about Dr. Phlox.  I liked him too.  He was at least different.

Well yeah cause his race was out of canon :P

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Phlox was probably the best actor on the show. And his character was good. There were some good moral discussions with him. 

The cast wasn't great. But I thought they were decent enough.  Tripp was good. Yoshi (wait what was her name?) was oka. 

The security guy wasn't pretty. Lol. 

The Vulcan was fine. The problem with Vulcan characters is they don't want to repeat TOS and do a half Vulcan but they don't want a character that is always stoic and unemotional. Voy was actually decent with this but it doesn't make for a very interesting character. 

I might be in the minority but I thought the season three story arc was horrible. Worst season of the series. The 4th season mini arcs was better with the new head writer. But even at its best enterprise was never going to be as good as any of the other series' except maybe Voy. 

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Not true. If they first season was them sitting in an office discussing details of the build then yes that would be boring. But there is plenty of intrigue good writers could write.  And assume they would have been in space in some way just not on the enterprise. 

The first storyline with the Klingons were terrible and violated canon.  It drives me crazy when they either ignore canon or they complain about being handcuffed by canon. Good writers would love the challenge. If a writer wants to ignore what has come before then go write for something else.  Only write Star Trek if you love it and appreciate. 

I remember that first Enterprise episode somewhat even though I haven't seen it in a long time. How did it violate Canon since humans had never dealt with Klingons at the time. Seems Star Trek no matter what series are now off the air. Space was the only network carrying the series but for the last 2 years got stuck on Voyager & TNG instead of switiching to the original, Enterprise or DS9.  With my surgeries & being off work the past year recovering, I started watching Voy & TNG late at night as they came on here at 2 & 3 am but when each series ended, Space would just start both over again & again & again until the franchise was removed a couple of months ago. I expected them to switch to DS9 & TOS but never happened.

I kinda felt they blew it when the ship went right to warp 3?4? without hitting 1,2 first.

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23 hours ago, iso_55 said:

I remember that first Enterprise episode somewhat even though I haven't seen it in a long time. How did it violate Canon since humans had never dealt with Klingons at the time. Seems Star Trek no matter what series are now off the air. Space was the only network carrying the series but for the last 2 years got stuck on Voyager & TNG instead of switiching to the original, Enterprise or DS9.  With my surgeries & being off work the past year recovering, I started watching Voy & TNG late at night as they came on here at 2 & 3 am but when each series ended, Space would just start both over again & again & again until the franchise was removed a couple of months ago. I expected them to switch to DS9 & TOS but never happened.

It had been referenced (I believe in an episode of TOS) that the Prime Directive was developed after First Contact with the Klingons ended disastrously.  So Enterprise showed us First Contact with the Klingons and it didn't end disastrously.  Sure, they weren't pals, but it wasn't a disaster.  Not to mention Earth was made to be a lot closer to Kronos in Enterprise than it should have been.

Additionally, the Vulcan's acted all wrong,  Ofcourse they eventually corrected this.

Then again, because that creative team coudlnt do anything that didn't involve time travel, they introduced the temporal cold war and thus, anything that happened could have been "wrong".  Really lazy.

However the good things Enterprise did:  The uniforms were great.  A nice combination of NASA flight suits and TOS unis.  The ship was pretty good.  The trouble was making a ship that was before TOS but using modern effects.  And they did a nice job.  Nothing there bothered me because some of the changes, like flat screen monitors are more about using modern tech that WOULD have been used if it were available in the 60's.

I think Enterprise should have been more focused on being the furthest deep space ship, more akin to TOS being out there on the frontier with little to no communication.  Instead it became just another TNG-lite show akin to Voyager.  If the DS9 writers were in charge of Enterprise, it would have been infinitely better.  

DS9 was the best series of all of them...  They totally wrapped the series up very well. Trying to remember but Cisco ascended to become a God leaving a sad Jake behind.

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3 minutes ago, iso_55 said:

DS9 was the best series of all of them...  They totally wrapped the series up very well. Trying to remember but Cisco ascended to become a God leaving a sad Jake behind.

I remember some people not liking that as it was essentially a Dues Ex Machina finish where the Gods interjected to save the day.  But given the totality of the series, it made complete sense.  DS9 was very religious and it climaxed that sense in the end.  Loved it.  The only thing I disliked about the end of DS9 was that they had Ducat so insane and end up as the big bad guy.  I see why they did it, to pay off Sisco's arc with a suitable counter-character.  But if Ducat had been redeemed by stepping in to save the station and the Bajoran's, it would have been a nice pay off to him too.

I'm liking what I'm hearing.  I'm really pumped at the idea of a seasonal Star Trek anthology.  10-13 episodes is an ideal amount of time to tell a tight closed-ended story. And Bryan Fuller does good work.

On 30/04/2016 at 2:24 PM, The Unknown Poster said:

I remember some people not liking that as it was essentially a Dues Ex Machina finish where the Gods interjected to save the day.  But given the totality of the series, it made complete sense.  DS9 was very religious and it climaxed that sense in the end.  Loved it.  The only thing I disliked about the end of DS9 was that they had Ducat so insane and end up as the big bad guy.  I see why they did it, to pay off Sisco's arc with a suitable counter-character.  But if Ducat had been redeemed by stepping in to save the station and the Bajoran's, it would have been a nice pay off to him too.

Dukat was such a great foil for Sisco though, just chewing scenery left right and centre all series long. There was no other way to go but to have him as the big bad at the end. 

4 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Dukat was such a great foil for Sisco though, just chewing scenery left right and centre all series long. There was no other way to go but to have him as the big bad at the end. 

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True.  I guess I love a good story of redemption.  They did sort of give that story to Dukat's right hand man..cant remember his name.  He was an alcoholic who rose to the occasion and defended Cardassia against the Dominion.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

True.  I guess I love a good story of redemption.  They did sort of give that story to Dukat's right hand man..cant remember his name.  He was an alcoholic who rose to the occasion and defended Cardassia against the Dominion.

Damar.  He had a good arc in the final season.  But his death was rather abrupt.

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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Let's also give some props to Jeffery Combs for all the characters he's played in Star Trek, particularly in DS9, guy was just fantastic. 

He almost single handedly saved Enterprise.  And had Enterprise been given a 5th season, he was joining the cast (and starship crew) as a regular).

 

EDIT: When I hear the new series is looking at Tony Todd, its interesting because while he's "okay", there have been some truly great character actors appear on Star Trek over the years.  Combs in particular is someone I'd look at casting in any future series.  He's going to end up on the series eventually and probably steal the show, so just cast him as a regular off the hop.

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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

He almost single handedly saved Enterprise.  And had Enterprise been given a 5th season, he was joining the cast (and starship crew) as a regular).

 

EDIT: When I hear the new series is looking at Tony Todd, its interesting because while he's "okay", there have been some truly great character actors appear on Star Trek over the years.  Combs in particular is someone I'd look at casting in any future series.  He's going to end up on the series eventually and probably steal the show, so just cast him as a regular off the hop.

Combs was on the 4400.  He was good in that series as well.

22 hours ago, johnzo said:

I'm liking what I'm hearing.  I'm really pumped at the idea of a seasonal Star Trek anthology.  10-13 episodes is an ideal amount of time to tell a tight closed-ended story. And Bryan Fuller does good work.

When CBS brings back Star Trek it would be a 22 week season chopped in 2 like they do now with their other shows. There may be 2 story arc over the season.

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7 minutes ago, iso_55 said:

When CBS brings back Star Trek it would be a 22 week season chopped in 2 like they do now with their other shows. There may be 2 story arc over the season.

Has that been announced?  Im under the impression it would be a more HBO-like 12-13 episode season.  But the longer the better...

37 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Has that been announced?  Im under the impression it would be a more HBO-like 12-13 episode season.  But the longer the better...

No, just figured that since it's on CBS albeit not the regular network that it would be a standard 22 episode season. Wanna bet that if this series becomes a hit that it won't be on the main network at some point?

Jerry Ryan

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