Elks at Bombers early chat

[Pete]

16 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Nah. Smith is NOT a hb. He has a fringe chance to be a S. Realistically, he is likely to end up a full time wil that doesn’t need to be subbed for a db in the dime pack playing the inside wall and hcf zones. 
 He doesn’t have any of the fluidity needed to be covering guys straight up, nor does he have any of the experience in how to man or match. 
 

Mackonzo, is a real db who can play some lber. He could be a Sam, half, S or wil / dime. 
 

Canadians who can actually cover import WRs are rare. Most Canadian dbs are safety’s who camp out between the hash marks at 15-20 yard depth and play scare crow. Or teams guys to small to back up at lber. 
 

Makonzo, haggerty, Kelly, smith and shay likely mean we flip the wil to ni in the future, and stop having to use a di on a db. Likely meaning we declare 3 Canadians on D. But also having the flexibility to flip more spots, and have really good depth at the same time. 
 

We could even flip wil and Mac to go with Kramdi at Sam for an all Canadian lber core. 

Its too early to say what Smith can or cannot be, currently he seems suited to sam or wil, but thru coaching could be db similar to Griffin.

Haggarty Makonzo,Kelly are all light to be will.

Edited 15 hours ago by Pete

[Fatty Liver]

15 minutes ago, Pete said:

Its too early to say what Smith can or cannot be, currently he seems suited to sam or wil, but thru coaching could be db similar to Griffin.

Haggarty Makonzo,Kelly are all light to be will.

O'Shea said they consider Smith more suited to DB than LB but that was early in TC.

[wbbfan]

24 minutes ago, Pete said:

Its too early to say what Smith can or cannot be, currently he seems suited to sam or wil, but thru coaching could be db similar to Griffin.

Haggarty Makonzo,Kelly are all light to be will.

Not true. He isn’t a qb. He isn’t a rb or wr. He isn’t a corner or half. Covering WRs is a specific and extremely demanding skill set. 
 Makonzo is 200 lbs, he can play wil. 
 

9 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

O'Shea said they consider Smith more suited to DB than LB but that was early in TC.

he said he had the flexibility and that upside, of playing S or maybe Sam, is worth a lot. But he hasn’t taken reps at either yet. 

[Booch]

21 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

O'Shea said they consider Smith more suited to DB than LB but that was early in TC.

Oshea also thinks Ayers is a DE....I wouldnt put too much into what he thinks to be honest

Smith would excell at Wil or SAM if allowed to be groomed and developed there.....that being getting live game reps and worked into rotation....

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Not true. He isn’t a qb. He isn’t a rb or wr. He isn’t a corner or half. Covering WRs is a specific and extremely demanding skill set. 
 Makonzo is 200 lbs, he can play wil. 
 

he said he had the flexibility and that upside, of playing S or maybe Sam, is worth a lot. But he hasn’t taken reps at either yet. 

Makonzo was a rising talent at SAM before he got hurt in Edm...If and when healthy he'd be a huge addition as he would be a better SAM than Kramdi...as he already was in hbis time in Edm, or used in Griffin's role and allow Griffin to be on field 95% of snaps

Part of our issues with depth and nobody in the hopper...the reluctance to work guys in and develop

Edited 14 hours ago by Booch

[Goalie]

Makonzo can’t stay healthy so I’d forget about him. 2 years ago was the last time he was healthy. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

4 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Makonzo can’t stay healthy so I’d forget about him. 2 years ago was the last time he was healthy. 

Shut your mouth.  Top SAM in league on worst defense all-time.

[SpeedFlex27]

15 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Calvillo has talked about when Trestman came in, they changed things up. More emphasis was put on pass pro and getting the ball out of his hands quickly. 

Calvillo also talked about how as a backup that Ham as a veteran qb taught him how to prepare & be ready to play. Ham helped him & Trestman did as well. Having great talent around him at every position offensively did as well. Anyway, this topic isn't worth diagreeing over. It takes more than one person to build a qb. 

On 2025-06-25 at 7:55 PM, Tracker said:

Experience consists of only two things: events and patterns. Events are singular, but patterns reveal realties, and Collaros has been trending downwards for more than two years. So were four other starters, and I remain unconvinced that a couple of token changes will right the ship.

He played well tonight. 

[BubGrant]

2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

 

He played well tonight. 

he did. Streveler played well in game 1. i have to wonder if Coach Jackson is having any impact on 8 and 17 this early. so far the team is 3 wins ahead of last year at this time. 

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, BubGrant said:

he did. Streveler played well in game 1. i have to wonder if Coach Jackson is having any impact on 8 and 17 this early. so far the team is 3 wins ahead of last year at this time. 

I'm just so glad that Buck is gone. Let him stunt Nathan Rourke's growth as a qb. 

18 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Funny how the play calls looked better in game one vs. Game 2 eh? Wonder what the change was....

 

I know he is a bit of a sacred cow to some but we really need to worry more about collaros than some people do. 

Cough, cough... Ever thought it was the QB Coach & OC whose now in BC?