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Trouba Trades

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3 minutes ago, JCon said:

Let's say Ehlers-RHN is a wash. I would hope that they could afford Trouba.

However, is Trouba interested in going to Edmonton? They're not trading for him unless they can extend him. I'm not sure what Trouba's issue with Winnipeg is (assuming, of course, he has one) but it's not likely Edmonton alleviates those issues. 

Yeah. Other then it’s proximity to Calgary Edmonton is “worse” than Winnipeg.  Especially in terms of getting to Florida or the north east USA which seems important to trouba. 

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Just now, Mike said:

How does this address any need for us?

More wingers! 

 

Or, just gives us assets we can trade to get a top 2 centre and more defensive depth. 

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22 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

Little, Trouba, and Ehlers to Edmonton for Nugent-Hopkins, 8th overall pick, and Puljujärvi.

I dont think Little is wantable but i like how you trying to get Puljujarvi.

 EDM would want Laine for Nugent-Hopkins and Puljujärvi.

Puljujärvi needs an another Finn to help him along.

 

Edited by FrostyWinnipeg

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What about a deal with Pens.  Not necessarily for trouba. Unless they want to trade Malkin here ha

 but they seem determined to get rid of Maata. Has he really fallen off that much?  4 years remain. Decent value.  Pens could use a guy like perreault. Even money. 

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9 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

What about a deal with Pens.  Not necessarily for trouba. Unless they want to trade Malkin here ha

 but they seem determined to get rid of Maata. Has he really fallen off that much?  4 years remain. Decent value.  Pens could use a guy like perreault. Even money. 

Pitts don't like Maatta now? Such a sweetheart deal when they signed him. Have not seen him lately but would have made Trouba/Maatta trade

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Not being in Winnipeg I get my gossip from people I know in the Peg.  Several have come back to me with the same story.  If they were doing a sitcom with the Jets as the focus, it would be called "Everyone hates Jacob".  Apparently many Jets want to see him gone, and weren't happy that he wasn't moved last year.  Take that FWIW.  

As I said, I won't be sad to see Trouba, Ehlers and Kuli gone for next year.  I like Perreault, but I don't see him surviving the cap crunch.

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15 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Pitts don't like Maatta now? Such a sweetheart deal when they signed him. Have not seen him lately but would have made Trouba/Maatta trade

Maatta was a healthy scratch in the playoffs. Very slow. He had such a good rookie season, but has gotten progressively worse each successive season.

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The reality of the situation is we need to try and turn some of our assets that are up for big money contracts into assets that are undervalued contracts with team control left. I don't know how you do that other than identifying a team with a competitive window that fits that need.

With that said, I think if you could get everyone in the same room, I truly think the best fit would probably be some kind of three-way deal with Calgary and Florida. Calgary probably sees a need to add forward depth and they can deal from a position of strength on D (especially if they're adding a guy like Alex Yelesin from the K, which it seems like they are) ... Florida really seems to be a good fit (player and team) for Trouba and Winnipeg could use a team like Calgary to bolster their D corps with the loss of Trouba.

Florida gets: Jacob Trouba, James Neal

Calgary gets: Vincent Trocheck, Matthieu Perreault

Winnipeg gets: Noah Hanifin

Add picks/prospects as you see necessary to make the deal work.

Why for Florida? They have the cap space to add Trouba and have long been reported to be a team interested in acquiring him - the fit for the player is there too, as Trouba wants to be in Florida with his girlfriend. James Neal is an albatross for Calgary, but he might be a better fit on the wing in Florida for a team that would need to fill a hole on the wing when Huberdeau goes back to the middle to fill the hole left by Trocheck. Gives them a top six of Dadonov-Barkov-Hoffman, Tippett-Huberdeau-Neal and you can still add spare parts in FA with your excess cap space (they should still have around 6-7 million left over and their only real guy they need to give more cash to is Hawryluk)

Why not for Florida? Maybe they're not comfortable moving Huberdeau to the middle and then maybe Neal is redundant, especially since you can spend your money in better ways (like finding a better option than Hawryluk for your 2C)

Why for Calgary? They really seem to need add forward depth and Trocheck is the kind of cost effective 2C that will present them with the ability to have an easier time resigning all the big ticket players they're going to have coming up in the next little while ... Tkachuk/Rittich as RFA this year ... Brodie/Hamonic UFA and Jankowski RFA the year after ... Perreault gives you some bridge depth that you can afford in the interim to keep your team's top 9 solid, especially if you let Bennett walk as another cost-controlled measure.

Why not for Calgary? Maybe Hanifin isn't the piece they want to give up on D and they're not sold on their ability to retain Brodie/Hamonic the year after next and would rather keep the guy they have secured for longer term. 

Why for Winnipeg? The biggest asset you gain here is the flexibility to retain your players in a cap crunch and offer your current roster an opportunity to gain a bigger role. Hanifin is a big add for a team that just lost Trouba. 

Why not for Winnipeg? I'm not sure. Maybe that's a sign this trade isn't as good as I think it is but I already typed all this **** out and I still think it makes decent sense so here we are.

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Florida was kinda who I was thinking might fit. It sounds like they'll be going for it next year, and they seem like they should be only a few pieces away. Matheson is who I think would be a good return, plus whatever other pieces it takes on either side to finish the deal. Young guy on a long term deal at a reasonable price.

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24 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

A 2C would be something Jets might like too.  Hamonic also. But not for trouba. 

I like trade guesses.  But I bet Chevy surprises us. 

I'd rather we keep Hayes than trade for somebody else.

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41 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I like Hayes too but were not gonna have Hayes unless we get rid of Little and we can't trade him.

Also not tradeable IMHO.

NMC doesn't mean he won't accept a trade. We asked Enstrom to waive his, so it's not like the organization has an unbreakable rule against asking.

I don't believe he's untradeable. Imo, worst case scenario is we have to add a draft pick with Little for a lower draft pick type of trade. But I think we could get a pick for him. It's not like he's terrible.

 

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