Atomic Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 58 minutes ago, Ducky said: Pavs comes in and gets the W and most Jets fans still aren't happy? His .909 was enough to win the game, we should be happy the team won, no? For some people, a "win" has nothing to do with the score. It's who has the youngest team that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 49 minutes ago, Atomic said: For some people, a "win" has nothing to do with the score. It's who has the youngest team that matters. You realize that you are agreeing with a guy who obsessed about save percentage after every single game while he was trying to get Comrie on the team... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Floyd said: You realize that you are agreeing with a guy who obsessed about save percentage after every single game while he was trying to get Comrie on the team... right? Not just save % but all numbers, I just like sv%... Example...before last night's game, the Jets had a sv% of .902. If we had at least half-assed goaltending and had say a .915, we would have let in 18 fewer goals so far this season. Math is neat huh? The next time you complain about coaching or the PK think of that stat for a bit and let that sink in. They should have given Comrie a look but they have called up Pavs so they will have to wait until we are mathematically eliminated now. Comrie came through junior seeing a million shots a game. See, I told you about 5 or so weeks ago it would have been nice if Hutch got a non-career threatening injury and was out for 2 weeks or so. Anyway, glad to see the W and Pavs to start next game with Helle backup. Edited January 20, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Here's the thing with numbers. You talk about our goalies and say if they let in 18 fewer goals... that's great but in the same sentence pretty much you talk about our coaching and pk but don't mention anything about our pk and how awful it was and if the pk let's say killed off 18 more penalties.. 18 less goals against on the PK sure helps also doesn't it. The fact you are all high and mighty after beating a coyotes team who sucks... ridiculous. We've seen it all before... 1 good game against a bad team and all is good? Nope. Sorry. Let's see them do this against a good team and do it consistently cuz right now beating Arizona proves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Goalie said: Here's the thing with numbers. You talk about our goalies and say if they let in 18 fewer goals... that's great but in the same sentence pretty much you talk about our coaching and pk but don't mention anything about our pk and how awful it was and if the pk let's say killed off 18 more penalties.. 18 less goals against on the PK sure helps also doesn't it. The fact you are all high and mighty after beating a coyotes team who sucks... ridiculous. We've seen it all before... 1 good game against a bad team and all is good? Nope. Sorry. Let's see them do this against a good team and do it consistently cuz right now beating Arizona proves nothing. High and mighty??? I said I was glad to see a W? The PK comment you made is not realistic. If they had an average PK, they would have stopped about 7 more goals. Do the math. Also, Armia and Matthias were hurt for a good part of the season and it has been better since they have been back. Do the math. Edited January 20, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Whatever really. You have it in your head that the goalies are the reasons we suck and refuse to actually even talk about other areas of the team that suck just as much so really..whatever man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) This is the goalie thread I thought this is where we talked about the goalies. You don't want to discuss or debate this because I showed you with math that you are wrong. What would you like to discuss? The coaches that everyone says is going nowhere but you say are getting fired? if you would like to discuss that topic we can do that in the coaches thread. Edited January 20, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 16 hours ago, Floyd said: You realize that you are agreeing with a guy who obsessed about save percentage after every single game while he was trying to get Comrie on the team... right? I realize NOTHING!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Hustler asks what Maurice's strengths are in this interview at 8:15. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/dreger-jets-as-invested-in-maurice-as-ever-1.653241 first and foremost his ability to communicate... defensively strong coach... incredibly intelligent... structure... overall experience... Noeller and Brandon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 http://lastwordonhockey.com/2017/01/19/winnipeg-jets-goaltending-situation/ Coaching? Also includes assistants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, Ducky said: Hustler asks what Maurice's strengths are in this interview at 8:15. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/dreger-jets-as-invested-in-maurice-as-ever-1.653241 first and foremost his ability to communicate... defensively strong coach... incredibly intelligent... structure... overall experience... Defensively strong? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Goalie said: http://lastwordonhockey.com/2017/01/19/winnipeg-jets-goaltending-situation/ Coaching? Also includes assistants - John Malloy, the author Well ****, if this punk kid says it, it must be true Floyd and Ducky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Defensively strong? lol Ralph Krueger seems to think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 http://thehockeywriters.com/time-to-move-on-from-connor-hellebuyck/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Not fair to compare him to the elite especially when he doesn't have that LA team playing in front of him. The Jets think he is the goalie of the future and I am still okay with giving him more time. If at the end of next year or the halfway mark he hasn't shown much improvement, it would be time to look harder at Comrie or acquiring a #1 goalie in other ways. Ideal situation was, and hindsight is 20/20, the Jets opening their wallets and acquiring a #1 to mentor Helle and let him develop with some vet help. The Isles goalie, Greiss, is one I would look at if he makes it to free agency this off-season. 30 years old and a career .919 and making 1.5m this year. 12-7-2 on a struggling Isles team this year. A 3 year deal or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 36 minutes ago, Ducky said: Not fair to compare him to the elite especially when he doesn't have that LA team playing in front of him. The Jets think he is the goalie of the future and I am still okay with giving him more time. If at the end of next year or the halfway mark he hasn't shown much improvement, it would be time to look harder at Comrie or acquiring a #1 goalie in other ways. Ideal situation was, and hindsight is 20/20, the Jets opening their wallets and acquiring a #1 to mentor Helle and let him develop with some vet help. The Isles goalie, Greiss, is one I would look at if he makes it to free agency this off-season. 30 years old and a career .919 and making 1.5m this year. 12-7-2 on a struggling Isles team this year. A 3 year deal or something. Did you read the article? Its pointing out how the elite goalies all had shaky starts and went through some growing pains... We likely have 2-3 more years of Helle's development until its really known whether he's an elite goalie or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 All the more reason to go out and get a goalie like Greiss... What if in 3 years he isn't an NHL goalie and all our youngsters are hitting their prime? Maybe Chevy should go and get us a #1 goalie now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, Ducky said: All the more reason to go out and get a goalie like Greiss... What if in 3 years he isn't an NHL goalie and all our youngsters are hitting their prime? Maybe Chevy should go and get us a #1 goalie now? Is this some sick and twisted way of trying to get your trade Myers campaign going again? Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 We can dream, can't we? That young LHD I was talking about trading him for would look good about now. It is too bad though because he was playing some pretty good hockey just before his injury. Besides, the Isles don't need more D men to protect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Floyd said: http://thehockeywriters.com/time-to-move-on-from-connor-hellebuyck/ What a terrible article. Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 On 12/19/2016 at 0:31 AM, Ducky said: To put into perspective... Helle sv% .909 .907 Bishop .906 .910 Gibson .906 .922 Schneider .905 .910 Fleury .904 .904 Mrazek .902 .894 today's in bold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 55 minutes ago, Ducky said: today's in bold A week ago helle was 913. Save percentage changes on a game by game basis for every goalie who plays in the game. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Goalie said: A week ago helle was 913. Save percentage changes on a game by game basis for every goalie who plays in the game. Exactly. Mid-season save percentage is pretty much meaningless. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Atomic said: - John Malloy, the author Well ****, if this punk kid says it, it must be true Facts be damned I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 On the bright side, Hutton is the lowest ranked goalie at .892. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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