Who starts the season and/or gets more games?

Pavs?

Helle?

Hutch?

I think Hutch has to play so many games this season to be eligible for the expansion draft so do they send Helle down? I think Helle is ready and Pavs should be sent down. Give Hutch enough games to be eligible for the draft and give Helle the rest. Say goodbye to the mistake that is Pavelec.

49 minutes ago, Atomic said:

For some people, a "win" has nothing to do with the score.  It's who has the youngest team that matters.

You realize that you are agreeing with a guy who obsessed about save percentage after every single game while he was trying to get Comrie on the team... right?

2 hours ago, Floyd said:

You realize that you are agreeing with a guy who obsessed about save percentage after every single game while he was trying to get Comrie on the team... right?

Not just save % but all numbers, I just like sv%...

Example...before last night's game, the Jets had a sv% of .902. If we had at least half-assed goaltending and had say a .915, we would have let in 18 fewer goals so far this season. Math is neat huh?

The next time you complain about coaching or the PK think of that stat for a bit and let that sink in.

They should have given Comrie a look but they have called up Pavs so they will have to wait until we are mathematically eliminated now. Comrie came through junior seeing a million shots a game.

See, I told you about 5 or so weeks ago it would have been nice if Hutch got a non-career threatening injury and was out for 2 weeks or so.

Anyway, glad to see the W and Pavs to start next game with Helle backup.

Edited January 20, 20179 yr by Ducky

Here's the thing with numbers.  You talk about our goalies and say if they let in 18 fewer goals... that's great but in the same sentence pretty much you talk about our coaching and pk but don't mention anything about our pk and how awful it was and if the pk let's say killed off 18 more penalties.. 18 less goals against on the PK sure helps also doesn't it. 

The fact you are all high and mighty after beating a coyotes team who sucks... ridiculous.  We've seen it all before... 1 good game against a bad team and all is good? Nope. Sorry. Let's see them do this against a good team and do it consistently cuz right now beating Arizona proves nothing. 

 

4 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Here's the thing with numbers.  You talk about our goalies and say if they let in 18 fewer goals... that's great but in the same sentence pretty much you talk about our coaching and pk but don't mention anything about our pk and how awful it was and if the pk let's say killed off 18 more penalties.. 18 less goals against on the PK sure helps also doesn't it. 

The fact you are all high and mighty after beating a coyotes team who sucks... ridiculous.  We've seen it all before... 1 good game against a bad team and all is good? Nope. Sorry. Let's see them do this against a good team and do it consistently cuz right now beating Arizona proves nothing. 

 

High and mighty??? I said I was glad to see a W?

The PK comment you made is not realistic. If they had an average PK, they would have stopped about 7 more goals. Do the math.

Also, Armia and Matthias were hurt for a good part of the season and it has been better since they have been back. Do the math.

Edited January 20, 20179 yr by Ducky

Whatever really. You have it in your head that the goalies are the reasons we suck and refuse to actually even talk about other areas of the team that suck just as much so really..whatever man 

This is the goalie thread I thought this is where we talked about the goalies. You don't want to discuss or debate this because I showed you with math that you are wrong. What would you like to discuss? The coaches that everyone says is going nowhere but you say are getting fired?  if you would like to discuss that topic we can do that in the coaches thread.

Edited January 20, 20179 yr by Ducky

16 hours ago, Floyd said:

You realize that you are agreeing with a guy who obsessed about save percentage after every single game while he was trying to get Comrie on the team... right?

I realize NOTHING!!!!

Hustler asks what Maurice's strengths are in this interview at 8:15.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/dreger-jets-as-invested-in-maurice-as-ever-1.653241

first and foremost his ability to communicate...

defensively strong coach...

incredibly intelligent...

structure...

overall experience...

http://lastwordonhockey.com/2017/01/19/winnipeg-jets-goaltending-situation/

 

Coaching?  Also includes assistants 

39 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Hustler asks what Maurice's strengths are in this interview at 8:15.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/dreger-jets-as-invested-in-maurice-as-ever-1.653241

first and foremost his ability to communicate...

defensively strong coach...

incredibly intelligent...

structure...

overall experience...

Defensively strong? lol

4 minutes ago, Goalie said:

http://lastwordonhockey.com/2017/01/19/winnipeg-jets-goaltending-situation/

 

Coaching?  Also includes assistants 

  - John Malloy, the author

Well ****, if this punk kid says it, it must be true

37 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Defensively strong? lol

Ralph Krueger seems to think so...

http://thehockeywriters.com/time-to-move-on-from-connor-hellebuyck/

Not fair to compare him to the elite especially when he doesn't have that LA team playing in front of him.

The Jets think he is the goalie of the future and I am still okay with giving him more time. If at the end of next year or the halfway mark he hasn't shown much improvement, it would be time to look harder at Comrie or acquiring a #1 goalie in other ways.

Ideal situation was, and hindsight is 20/20, the Jets opening their wallets and acquiring a #1 to mentor Helle and let him develop with some vet help. The Isles goalie, Greiss, is one I would look at if he makes it to free agency this off-season. 30 years old and a career .919 and making 1.5m this year. 12-7-2 on a struggling Isles team this year. A 3 year deal or something.

36 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Not fair to compare him to the elite especially when he doesn't have that LA team playing in front of him.

The Jets think he is the goalie of the future and I am still okay with giving him more time. If at the end of next year or the halfway mark he hasn't shown much improvement, it would be time to look harder at Comrie or acquiring a #1 goalie in other ways.

Ideal situation was, and hindsight is 20/20, the Jets opening their wallets and acquiring a #1 to mentor Helle and let him develop with some vet help. The Isles goalie, Greiss, is one I would look at if he makes it to free agency this off-season. 30 years old and a career .919 and making 1.5m this year. 12-7-2 on a struggling Isles team this year. A 3 year deal or something.

Did you read the article?  Its pointing out how the elite goalies all had shaky starts and went through some growing pains...

We likely have 2-3 more years of Helle's development until its really known whether he's an elite goalie or not.

All the more reason to go out and get a goalie like Greiss...

What if in 3 years he isn't an NHL goalie and all our youngsters are hitting their prime?

Maybe Chevy should go and get us a #1 goalie now?

14 minutes ago, Ducky said:

All the more reason to go out and get a goalie like Greiss...

What if in 3 years he isn't an NHL goalie and all our youngsters are hitting their prime?

Maybe Chevy should go and get us a #1 goalie now?

Is this some sick and twisted way of trying to get your trade Myers campaign going again?

We can dream, can't we? That young LHD I was talking about trading him for would look good about now. It is too bad though because he was playing some pretty good hockey just before his injury.

Besides, the Isles don't need more D men to protect...

2 hours ago, Floyd said:

http://thehockeywriters.com/time-to-move-on-from-connor-hellebuyck/

What a terrible article. 

On 12/19/2016 at 0:31 AM, Ducky said:

To put into perspective...

Helle sv% .909      .907

Bishop .906      .910

Gibson .906      .922

Schneider .905      .910

Fleury .904      .904

Mrazek .902      .894

today's in bold

55 minutes ago, Ducky said:

today's in bold

A week ago helle was 913. 

Save percentage changes on a game by game basis for every goalie who plays in the game. 

 

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

A week ago helle was 913. 

Save percentage changes on a game by game basis for every goalie who plays in the game. 

 

Exactly.  Mid-season save percentage is pretty much meaningless.

7 hours ago, Atomic said:

  - John Malloy, the author

Well ****, if this punk kid says it, it must be true

Facts be damned I suppose. 

On the bright side, Hutton is the lowest ranked goalie at .892.

2 hours ago, Floyd said:

Exactly.  Mid-season save percentage is pretty much meaningless.

I think with Greiss (UFA) and Alzner (UFA) we are contenders...just for you Floyd, my 2017 roster...

 

Laine Little Wheeler

Ehlers Scheif Armia

Matthias Lowry Dano

Tanev Copp Roslo

Alzner Buff

Morrissey Trouba

Enstrom Myers

Greiss/Hellebuyck

Poolman, MP and Connor need to be in the lineup too???

100 point team easily with that lineup.