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  5. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    8 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

    Hey Bert! No, we didn't make a big deal out of 300 yards. That was on you. Nichols didn't throw accurate deep balls last year when 'we' were actually complaining about it.

    Well made I need to search the word 300 yards in the thread and see how much it comes up from people not me.

    Or how many times people keep on complaining about my position about passing yards being meaningless.  Cuz they are, they're meaningless.

  6. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    17 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

    The 300 yard schtick is something the Nichols fans made up to make fun of. No one but Nichols fans are talking about it.

    It's not about loving or hating a QB. It's about looking at how they actually play week to week.

    You don't have to say only good things about one QB and only bad things about the other.

    Nichols threw a couple of great deep balls last night. That doesn't mean that he threw good deep balls last year or in general.

    Streveler threw a horrible pick last night. That doesn't mean he always throws horrible picks.

    Streveler's lack of experience isn't an argument for Nichols being better. It simply means that Streveler needs more reps.

    I have no complaints about Nichols play last night, but I would have liked for him to be pulled earlier because we were so far ahead and the reps were way more important to Streveler than they were to Nichols.

    Hey Ernie, no we never made a big deal about Nichols constantly only throwing about 200 yards or less a game.  No no no, we never said that at all.

    Oh and how bout those deep balls?  We never ripped on him saying he couldn't throw those.  Nope, never ever did that.

     

    LOL

  9. Argos at Bombers - Game Day

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    53 minutes ago, BBlink said:

    Didn't we end with close to 50 points? I think you've answered your own question from earlier. Namely that the playcalling is going to be different when we're up big. Second, I can't imagine it's easy to go out there and play with intensity when you're winning by that much. Thirdly, I think we saw a glimpse of what it would be like without one of our all star tackles. The second half sucked, yeah, but it was destined to based on the reasons above. 

    We also were without Bighill on defense and lost Hecht there too.  Other side of the ball yes but also allowed the Argos a little more ease at keeping the ball and maybe a little less TOP for us.

    But yes, the play calling does change when we're up big and Lapolice will usually stop calling those deep balls at that point.  So yes, the passing yards spigot will be shut off and rushing yards one turned on.

    Bottom line though is this team is built to win off of playmakers like Whitehead and Nelson, and the defense is also key.  A team that's complete in all 3 phases.

  10. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    Bert: Hey Ernie ... this Matt Nichols guy is starting to throw deep balls on us and cause TDs to happen

    Ernie: Oh no Bert, we can't have that, he's starting to debunk our theory on him as a game manager

    Bert: Ernie, we need to move the goal posts again and throw his deep ball passes out the window and only count his short passes averaging out to 17 attempts for 85 yards

    Ernie: Great idea Bert, we'll nail him to the wall now

  11. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    24 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    Nobody except you brings up passing yards... Seriously.. Get a legit grip on reality.. Nobody GAF about passing yards.. But when u get 60 percent of them in 2 passes and 40 percent in 17 other attempts.. Despite you actually not reading peoples posts cuz nobody has said passing yards matter, its a problem. You aren't moving the ball in the air consistently. You lose your **** cuz in your head its 2 things.. 1. Yards. 2. Matt Nchols vs Streveler

    Nobody has said either of those tho.. Do u even read posts? Cuz all I've said is consistency is a problem with the passing game. If you don't think consistently moving the ball in the air matters in the CFL.. You must be new. 

    Says it all right there

  12. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    2 minutes ago, J5V said:

    Since I've asked you this twice now, how bout for once you tell us in what way(s) Nichols is a better QB than Streveler. Seriously, because the only argument I can make on Nichols' behalf is that he is more risk averse than Streveler, a point which could be argued both ways and could actually fall into Lapo's lap anyway. Otherwise, I think arguments could be made that Chris throws better, certainly runs better, and is far more likely to try to make a play rather than turtle with the ball or throw it away at the first sign of trouble, a trait seen by the better QBs of our league like Reilly and Mitchell.

    I think they're both pretty smart QBs really.  Let's see if I can put it this way ... 

    I just think with his pretty consistent completion ℅, TD to INT ratio, and ability to make most if not all the throws you want to see from a QB, Nichols does that more often than not.  Streveler can make some pretty good ones too I think but his sample size is still limited and hard to say how consistent he is with those.  I'll give that Streveler can scramble and that can be an element that fans enjoy seeing and getting their excitement from.  But being a pocket passer like Nichols is doesn't mean it makes him less potent as a QB.

    I think the problem is we're kinda talking about the potential of one QB vs another.  I actually do have an open enough mind to believe Streveler could be a better QB than Nichols in terms of potential, but when looking at purely actual play and results on the field, he's not proven it yet.  There have been many QBs with potential who never turned it into greatness.

    So like I said, I was quite serious about wanting to see Streveler on the field more tonight.  If he's better than Nichols, then good, I've been wanting to see another Danny McManus arise from here.  I just want to see the actual results prove this, not prognostication.

  13. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    Just now, Goalie said:

    Lol. U just can't accept reality. Its a joke actually.. 

    Bring up Reilly like that's relevant some how.. Reillys worst game as a pro at that

    No, you just only believe passing yards matter if Nichols is under center and throw them out the window for everyone else.  You're on a witch hunt and that's how it's done.  You just bring up the fake stats outside of Nichols deep balls because they have to mean something to you.

     

    Well too damn bad cuz they don't.  This is phony propaganda and you'll never prove otherwise.

  14. Argos at Bombers - Game Day

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    2 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    IDGAF about BC or Mike Reilly.. Mike Reilly has nothing to do with Matt Nichols and PLAP. 

    Phony narrative based on 2 plus seasons.. Yup. 

     

    Of course you don't cuz your a goal post moving phony narrative witch hunter.  It only matters if it's Nichols under center and nobody else.

    You sir are way out on a mad man fishing expedition

  15. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    3 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    You can pretend this is this game exclusive all you want.. This is our O for 3 seasons now. If Harris sucks like he did 2 weeks ago.. We don't move the ball in the air. 

    Do you watch every game? Cuz when Harris isnt going... We dont move the ball through the air. 

    Yup as well as other teams in whose QBs like Mike Reilly also have sub 300 yards.

    This is fake stat phony propaganda at its finest.  End of debate.

  16. Argos at Bombers - Game Day

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    2 minutes ago, White Out said:

    WE ARE 4 AND 0 MAN. 

    Jesus. Enjoy it. 

    Nichols has thrown 10 TD to 1 pick. All 3 phases of our team are great. Stop it. Just stop. 

    I wouldn't pay any attention to goalie, he's building a phony narrative based on stats he can't account for or the circumstances surrounding them.

    I wonder where he was last night when Reilly had similar numbers.

  17. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    1 minute ago, Goalie said:

    Whats your ******* point.... And when Harris isnt going.. Nichols still puts up 2 big passes and a bunch for 3 yards. 

    The real whining is ppl refusing to accept facts about our O play. Yup. Harris. Guess what tho.. There's been games where Harris has sucked also.. Nichols still puts up just over 200 yards

    He had over 100 yards on the ground again tonight so this is a phony narrative.

    Ridiculous and baseless argument

  20. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    Lord almighty it just doesn't stop with these nuts on their fishing expedition.

    Man ... Lol "hot garbage" in the second half.  Yeah, I'm certain Lapolice's usual conservative ways when having a big lead or getting a bit shaken from a hit had nothing to do with that.  Nothing at all lol

     

    I actually am disappointed I didn't see more of Streveler has in this game because I would have enjoyed ....

    1. Discussing his play as a scrambling game manager

    2. Turning the attempts by the witch hunters to use him as an anti Nichols propaganda vehicle against them.  The Nichols detractors can never put their money where their mouth is, how bout they do it for once?  Lol

  21. Matt Nichols Discredited Too Much? Passing Yards Are Meaningless

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    10 minutes ago, Brandon said:

    I thought Nichols was lights out in the first and hot garbage in the 2nd.   His deep balls have been great ,  however the guy seems to not be able to find any guys in the 7 - 20 yard range at all.  Streveler despite his bad int was at least able to complete mid range passes.

    It feels like Nichols can hit a guy deep or flip it to Harris for a 3 yard gain.   I really wished in the 2nd half that he was able to put together some drives since he did have time to throw.

    Really?  And all this time I thought I kept hearing he was a lousy deep ball thrower

  23. Argos at Bombers - Game Day

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    4 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:

    I just want to see him do it all the way through the playoffs.  This is an easy game tonight.  Sometimes I don't believe he has what it takes to win a cup... tonight is good but Toronto is bad.  

    Well, I don't think we're going to face a defense quite like that Stampeder defense we saw the last couple years, so call me not as worried this time.

    But I say let's just keep it focused here and now and worry about the playoffs when they get here.

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