Jesse

Last thing I'll say is no one could have done anything from an attendance/marketing/financial point of view with the football team being as bad as it is. The board made a choice to tie themselves to Chris Jones before hiring a president. That whole thing was a gimmick available to a small number of seats. I don't think it's costing them enough money to fire someone.

Sounds like you're buying into the propaganda, imo. The board has multiple years of fishyness behind them that predates Cui. They've backed themselves into a corner with Jones and are unable to fire him but someone had to be the sacrificial lamb.

The only thing I dislike are the curmudgeons who complain about players having fun on the field. Do we want the NFL-style flags for celebrations? Let them celebrate, let them choreograph dances. let them hide markers and phones in the goal posts (Chad Johnson reference).

If this were true, it wouldn't be tied to former staff. The cap was to limit real, total dollars; not just the number of staff or year to year spending.

Well, his job wasn't on the football side, so maybe people shouldn't blame him for their continued failures.

I think we have to do that if Zach is out. Need to roster 3, right?

No, it just means the board isn't capable of knowing whether he was or was not doing a good job. I'm also convinced this is Cui walking away, not getting fired.

The Hardrick Hop is one of the best things to see as a home fan. Let the boys have fun.

Definitely can't afford to guarantee player salaries. And there's a never ending stream of new ones. Obviously, their union has made some strides in these areas though and will hopefully continue to get more. I honestly don't know why management contracts are guaranteed. How did that become a thing? Are coaches really so irreplaceable? Because some teams rotate through them as quickly as they do players. It's a hard thing to take away once it's been so firmly established, but you'd think there'd be some kind of buy-out option at least.

1. Everything that ails the Elks isn't under Cui's purview. 2. The board has a history of making these types of decisions (to the detriment of their club). 3. The mismanagement predates Cui. Again, I don't buy a word of anything that comes out of the club. The only good PR and sense of good faith came from Cui.

I don't but a word of it. Edmonton board is an old boys club who needs everyone on staff to march in step and tell them how awesome they are at all times. The fact that Cui was trying to make changes implied that they were doing things wrong and they can't have that. Just like when Eddie Steele was fired from his radio job for being critical of the club.

I imagine that's the exact opposite of what happened.

No. I refuse to blame the league for Edmonton's incompetence. It's Edmonton's board who handed the keys to Jones. Gave him way too many roles, for way too many years, for way too much money BEFORE even hiring a team president. Now people are trying to blame the league? Nope. Don't buy it. How many staff's should a team be allowed to pay at once? Digging themselves in a hole so they can collect on the new league revenue sharing so we get to pay for their mistakes? F that.

Something needs to be done. It’s bad and it’s constant.

Even if this game doesn't happen, I was expecting to lose him in the off-season. He's not going to keep sitting for two more years.

As well as over 500 receiving.

It was late. It was a head shot. It was piling on. It was a defenseless player. what other criteria is there!?!?

Demski

That was my first thought too, but if you'll recall, they tried to bring in many other before Jeffries, but no one would accept the position. No one wants to sign on for a team that's going to fire everyone at the end of the year.

He certainly could. I just don't know how hurt he is or if he needs to wait for an injury settlement with the NFL to go through first.

1. The one possibility would be to sign late in the year for a situation like that. Or perhaps jumping on with a play-off bound team with an injured starter.

Dave Naylor is speculating that the injury will prevent his CFL return right now but next year is looking likely.

For 2 years, It thought he should retire. The last three times he got a job, I was astounded. And each time he got another injury and was out long-term, there was that sadistic satisfaction of saying, I knew it, now he's done. Then another team would sign him. Blew me away. For him to come back from all of that, and have the success he's had? Just incredible. Now, all that said, I don't remember any negativity from the initial thread. It was a mix of, thankfully we found someone and some shrugs because of the perennial injuries. Most of the debate happened after 2019 - when the question became - do we bring him back?

No one is arguing they should. But you are trying to say that doing the opposite - taking away games - will somehow lead to increased attendance and revenue. It's a completely unreasonable take.

None of these have the slimmest chance of happening. Less game = less people = less money. Literally every sport is adding games, increasing amount of teams that make play-offs, to create more games to create more money.