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Hawerchuk was elite. Doan isn't. End of story

Retain on Pavs salary and I think he's movable. Maybe as a throw in as part of a buff or enstrom deal.

Vince and Roman were ok. Steph was way over the top tho.

It's good because we don't have to pay him 200 000 to suck. It's really that simple. Money better spent elsewhere. Maybe give it a few months and if we only go in to camp with 5 or 6 guys signed then have it but it's not even Jan 1st yet

Great move and obvious

Yup. For the franchise. Hawerchuk scored 379 goals as a Winnipeg Jet. Doan has now scored 379 goals for the same "franchise". Next goal, he breaks Hawerchuks franchise record of goals scored.

Makes me laugh. The stupidity of some people

29 other teams and some with bigger problems than the Jets never picked up these guys either. What that does tell you really... Tells me, they aren't good enough.

Can say what you want about Nichols but.... There is no doubt that he is 100000 percent better than both Brohm and Marve combined. He may not be an elite starting QB but as a back-up, I can think of a ton of guys who are much worse than he is. And BTW, Edmonton didn't win games because of Franklin or Nichols for that matter, They won because of their D. Even when Reilly got back, he didn't exactly light it up, he did enough to win and with Edmonton's D, really, not much really needed to be done by the O. Don't turn the ball over really.

The biggest difference in reality is not buff-trouba.... it's somebody else on the ice, probably the most important person on the ice. It's Helle. It's really that simple. When you win games 1-0 or 4-1 but give up over 30 shots each game, you aren't winning cuz your D is playing good, you are winning because your goalie is kind of standing on his head at times. Let's see the Jets do this against western conference teams and then I'll start to get a little more excited, beating eastern teams at home at MTS or on the road for that matter this year has not been a problem, they have a ridiculously good record vs the eastern conference.. It's actually one of the best in the league, top 5 i believe for sure. It's the western teams and their own central division that they are struggling against big time, You need to beat the teams in your own conference, specifically, your own division to have a chance. Jets haven't really done that yet.

Let's hope Glenn Jacobs stays away from Buffalo... What's gonna happen when Carolina plays there? or will they be ok cuz they are the HurriCANES. I want to give Evander the benefit of the doubt but i don't know him, i'm not sure about him, he's one of those guys that... yeah i could see him doing this and thinking he can get away with it... I dunno, I sound awful but... it's really hard for me to think that Evander is completely innocent in all this, I'm not sure Patty Kane was innocent either, but.... who really knows. Evander tho, man the guy just has "creep" written all over him, from shirtless twitter profile pics to sending out "candy kanes" on his instagram... apparently (it's what i've heard, for some reason, he's blocked me on twitter and i don't know why exactly)

Doan is a good guy, he's loyal and i understand some of his comments, he lives in phoenix, his family is there, he's had a long career... the fact is if this team never left winnipeg in the first place, it's likely Shane Doan is the captain of the current team that would be called the Jets. I can't blame the guy for a couple comments he made... cuz fact is, if i was a veteran of 17 years or whatever, maybe more.. and the team was possibly moving, i'd probably just retire 2. Why move my family for a year or 2. Makes no sense.

Some really interesting comments on the twitter about this signing... shows you the lack of knowledge actually of lots of bomber fans. Several were saying they hope he took a huge pay cut cuz he sucked so bad.

It means very little. I dunno... It's a tough one actually, do i feel we should have the Jets 1.0 history? The current Jets that is? No. Do i feel Arizona should have it? Not really. If it was the same owners that owned the original Jets then sure... But the Jets 2.0 as much as some want to believe, they aren't a reincarnation of the Jets 1.0 The Jets 1.0 is in Arizona, we have Atlanta... It is what it is. Does it make me kind of sick to my stomach reading about things like that? Sure.. Do i care all that much tho? Not really cuz in my opinion, the Jets 1.0 are dead Doan can pass Hawerchuk all he wants, it's irrelevant to me... they can have the records but... and i'm way 2 young to actually remember ducky.... They can't take the memories away.. Do i feel the Jets 1.0 records should belong to Winnipeg and perhaps be in the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame? you bet. Will it ever happen? NO and i'm fine with that.

Well, Let's just review a couple of the Buffalo players.... Ryan O'reilly... signs his contract and then is charged with a DUI immediately after Evander Kane .... Sexual Assault charges pending. He probably fits right in.

I believe Mike does live here during his off-season, Not sure... if that would be now or not. Tis the season tho so it might just have been him.

Fun fact: If Shane Doan scores 1 goal this game, just 1... he passes Dale Hawerchuk on the all time list for goals scored.

Not to mention, removing the toxicity out of the dressing room. That right there is a huge win for the JETS.

I don't think Hutch has much value, I think Pav has more value than Hutch... especially if the Jets could retain part of his salary for his final season next year. I don't think Hutch gets you much back at all, Quite honestly, I'd be somewhat surprised if they put him on waivers and someone picked him up... I just don't think they go that route and i personally don't think they will send Helle down, Helle is now the starter on this team, he's the best goalie they have, healthy or not healthy and it's not close. I'm not sure what they do, maybe they can send PAV down to the AHL on a conditioning stint, I'm not sure, that would be what i would do and give them some more time to think about it... I don't know.. they could always carry 3 goalies and send someone else down or make a trade elsewhere.. I don't know. Helle is too good to be sent down, That was just a little joke on my part cuz i'd love to see a top 3 pick and i think Helle being so good, it means they would get another 8 -12 pick instead of a top 3... i don't agree with tanking either but.... making moves that helps make you win less games without exactly tanking would be fine with me. Maybe sign Ladd and if he's injured, shut him down for the rest of the year, same with Scheif maybe, maybe Send Helle down, (they can't tho, he's too good)

Perhaps wanting to go was the wrong word to use, he didn't but he also couldn't deal with the thought of the team leaving Winnipeg. The guy loved Winnipeg and still does to this day. He was distraught because he found out that it was for sure that the team was leaving. He felt betrayed cuz the management at the time kind of bs'd him about the whole thing... There was no chance they were staying, it was known for longer than they admitted that they were leaving, the rallys at the forks, the 'save the jet's " stuff.. it was all pointless cuz the team was going.... regardless. It was gone. Teemu and others were somewhat lied too for a while by the people in charge, saying we might stay, we might stay, it's not guaranteed we are leaving. Yes, the american owners pick Keith over Teemu but... nobody ever told teemu the truth about the entire situation either. Rumors are once he found out for sure that the team was indeed leaving, he asked to be moved.

This team as it currently sits tho... it's not a playoff team.. It's a damn pick 8-12th again team and that's the worst that could happen actually.

Gonna admit, tried logging on a few times, but... didn't... was wondering if maybe something was up with my phone or internet lol. Then while on twitter during the Jets intermission last night, saw a MBB post mentioning that the site is down.. I was like ok makes sense, thankfully is their problem lol and not mine exactly (don't mean that but, it wasn't because of my phone ) Not that big of a deal tho considering the holidays and all.

Jets were out played big time... Only reason they won is Helle.. Problems still there, Too many penalties still and just a lack of execution really.... If Mrazek played the whole game for Detroit, this one is way closer... Helle the only reason it was 4-1. Easily could have been 6 7- 4 detroit.

I guess, maybe what this proves is that it don't matter if you have all the money or fame in the world.... you still want power and i suppose in a way, sexual assault or rape or whatever you wanna call it... it's all about the power that you crave. Personally, I'd never sexually assault a woman, it just wouldn't happen, i was the type of guy at the bar where if a drunk girl was all over me, i'd kind of back off a bit just because i just didn't see the fun in taking advantage of a drunk person. Others tho, and No doubt, going to bars in the past, we've all seen it, Some guys don't care and will take advantage of the drunk girl.. It don't matter if you are Patrick Kane, Evander Kane, Bill Cosby or Tom Foolery from down the block... It happens. It's funny, whenever these come out, most people say... looks like it's another money grabbing woman, they never for one second even think that it's possible that maybe just maybe the guy actually did rape her.

LOL. the most one sided trade ever is by far the Gretzky to LA one... That didn't need to happen. I wouldn't count the Teemu trade because he wanted to go, he didn't want to be here to see the team leave, he's said it b4, he wanted to be traded cuz he couldn't deal with the team leaving Winnipeg. If that team stayed here, Teemu wouldn't have been traded.