Mr. Perfect

You just don't get it. That's not his mantra. We all know it's not just another game, he knows it as well. That doesn't mean he's going to say it, much like how he said we'd be the same team with Brohm under the controls if he ended up getting the start tomorrow when we obviously would not be. Not that difficult to understand how O'Shea handles himself in the press. I fully get his mantra but O'Shea has to realize he's in the entertainment business and not politics, so as the Bombers only spokesman he owes the fans and the media a modicum of respect in providing valid "real-time" references in regard to the Bombers status during his press conferences. Otherwise fans and media will begin to tune out "his message" once the playoff hopes fade and the "new coach is cool" infatuation wears off. Once the media is starved for relevant info. they begin to fill their columns with drivel like Wiecek has recently. Wrong again (on many levels but I'll keep it short as possible). O'Shea is not in the entertainment business. O'Shea is in the coaching business. You could say the players themselves are, but it's not up to O'Shea to provide the entertainment (and where politics come from is beyond me - Not even sure how you reach that conclusion). O'Shea doesn't care if the fans or media tune out his message, and he shouldn't care. The ONLY message O'Shea needs to be concerned about is the message he provides to his players, which is why he conducts himself the way he does in front of the podium. It's the right way whether you like it or not. Excuse me but you must have fallen asleep during your moderators 101 class. You have your opinion and I have mine, doesn't make either of us right or wrong, we just have different perspectives. If you want to act as though only your opinion is correct than please take off your moderators cap before posting so that you don't discredit this forum. When O'Shea's salary is ultimately derived from approval of the product he is putting on the field for which the fans pay to view for entertainment value only, that is the first clue that O'Shea works in the entertainment industry. Second clue. Like it or not O'Shea appears on TV and in print at least once a week speaking to the viewers and the press as part of his contractual obligation to convey information regarding a product he wishes to sell, "Bomber football" which can be classified as nothing but entertainment. If those duties do not go well as with Mike Kelly, his performance in other aspects of his job may not matter very much. Ultimately every coach will keep or lose his job depending on how well entertained the fans are. Not surprisingly most fans derive much more pleasure from winning than they do from losing. If you're wrong in your thoughts, you're going to get called out on it. Being a moderator is irrelevant. I'm not the only mod on this site to call out someone for being wrong, and I won't be the last. I've also been a moderator on other sites, and was not the only one to call out posters for being wrong. Being a moderator does not mean I can't tell someone their wrong. Yes you can have an opinion (that is why we're all here after all), but if that opinion is wrong, I'll tell you it's wrong, and I'll explain why you're wrong as well as I did in my previous post. I'm very confident in what I post and unlike you I can back up my arguments, and counter arguments with points that actually make sense. If I come across as a jerk or worse because of how I express myself, I'm not going to apologize for that. This isn't daycare, and it's not my fault if you or others don't have a thick skin when it comes to getting called out. O'Shea's number one goal is winning. Period. End of story. Making sure the fans and media are entertained AS we win is not in the least in his job description. If the job of a coach was to entertain the fans and media in press conferences, Bill Belichek would have been fired a long time ago. O'Shea conducts himself as a professional coach who is focused on winning. Maybe people aren't use to that based on other coaches we've had here recently but as a whole when you look at winning coaches in general (yes there are exceptions here and there) they all act in the same way. O'Shea is cut from the same cloth.

The difference between the two is marginal. Not enough to win or lose a game IMO - but if Lirim gets hurt - who kicks that 45 yard field goal to win a game, hmmmm? Hardly marginal. Renaud shanks way more punts than Lirim, it's not even close. Furthermore, regarding your 45 yard field goal point, Renaud can't kick field goals, or kick off to save his life. If you recall back to the game we were suppose to dress Louie Sakoda in 2010, and he couldn't go because he hid is injury from coaches, Renaud was forced to do kickoffs and field goals. It was an embarrassment.

You just don't get it. That's not his mantra. We all know it's not just another game, he knows it as well. That doesn't mean he's going to say it, much like how he said we'd be the same team with Brohm under the controls if he ended up getting the start tomorrow when we obviously would not be. Not that difficult to understand how O'Shea handles himself in the press. I fully get his mantra but O'Shea has to realize he's in the entertainment business and not politics, so as the Bombers only spokesman he owes the fans and the media a modicum of respect in providing valid "real-time" references in regard to the Bombers status during his press conferences. Otherwise fans and media will begin to tune out "his message" once the playoff hopes fade and the "new coach is cool" infatuation wears off. Once the media is starved for relevant info. they begin to fill their columns with drivel like Wiecek has recently. Wrong again (on many levels but I'll keep it short as possible). O'Shea is not in the entertainment business. O'Shea is in the coaching business. You could say the players themselves are, but it's not up to O'Shea to provide the entertainment (and where politics come from is beyond me - Not even sure how you reach that conclusion). O'Shea doesn't care if the fans or media tune out his message, and he shouldn't care. The ONLY message O'Shea needs to be concerned about is the message he provides to his players, which is why he conducts himself the way he does in front of the podium. It's the right way whether you like it or not.

Kid is a warrior. Darrin Bauming ‏@DarrinBauming 2m Regardless of the importance of this game for the #Bombers, Drew Willy says he would have played anyway.

You just don't get it. That's not his mantra. We all know it's not just another game, he knows it as well. That doesn't mean he's going to say it, much like how he said we'd be the same team with Brohm under the controls if he ended up getting the start tomorrow when we obviously would not be. Not that difficult to understand how O'Shea handles himself in the press.

Atta boy Drew!

You know, and this isn't directed to one particular person, just a general statement for everybody, but there's something to be said for the individual that's able to be the bigger person and not get suckered into a pissing contest when they are being baited in. Just some food for thought. As for the trade itself, while the Riders haven't ruled out Durant for the season, I've seen nothing that indicated the team is optimistic, or counting on Durant being ready for the playoffs - merely that it's possible he may be, just as it's technically possible for Ottawa to run the table and win the east, but I don't think anyone is holding their breath for either scenario. With that said, at the moment (and yes it's premature) I'd give Hamilton the edge on the deal as it seems shortsighted to do a deal like this when realistically Durant won't be back.

http://iphone.tsn.ca/tsnpodcasts/1290_BigShow092414_KyleWaltersInterview.mp3 From TSN 1290. Some interesting points of note: - Execution in run plays is more if a factor than sticking to the run. Can't keep calling run plays if you're in second and long all game. Admits it's a fine line. - Admits team will need to overpay in free agency in the offseason to add quality Canadians. Can't fully rely on the draft. - It is a very deep draft this year. As a result teams aren't as willing to trade draft picks this year. "your first three, four rounds you're going to get some quality players."

Yes, lets expect Willy to have eyes in the back of his head so it will help him slide, which he would have needed considering Khreem Smith was not in his field of vision when he was tackled. Brilliant.

It will be big to see how his shoulder responds tomorrow after stressing it, but if it's good, then we likely are good.

Darrin Bauming ‏@DarrinBauming 5m Drew Willy taking the initial first-team reps in practice today, as Brohm watches with his helmet off. First rep, a 30-yard pass. #Bombers

He lives! Darrin Bauming ‏@DarrinBauming 5m Drew Willy taking the initial first-team reps in practice today, as Brohm watches with his helmet off. First rep, a 30-yard pass. #Bombers

Kevin Glenn would sure look good in Blue and Gold right about now. Hamilton is coming on and Collaros is proving to be more effective than Willy. If you legitimately think Collaros is a better QB than Drew Willy, I'm sorry but you have no idea what you are watching. Aside from being more mobile there is not one thing he does better than Willy. When you consider how many second and long situations Willy is faced with on a game by game bases (which gives the opposition essentially free reign to tee off on him) it's amazing he's been able to do what he has up to this point. Willy is more accurate, has a stronger arm, is way better at reading a defence, and his mechanics are far and away better than Collaros could ever hope to have.

Collaros has to be smarter than that. Lucky the fumble was recovered by a teammate.

The Edmonton offensive line looks drunk in the second half.

Sure is. Toronto's system and offensive line did a great job of masking his fundamentals.

Big loss for the Lions. They're at Calgary next week. Hopefully Willy is in good enough condition to give things a go against Hamilton, but I'd be surprised to see it happen.

We got the bad one in week 5. Hopefully he returns next month for the third game.

Goodell isn't going anywhere. He absolutely destroyed the players association in the last CBA.

Calgary

Blah, blah, blah...why do you always need to prove you were right? Blah, blah, blah...it's so exhausting. Blah, blah, blah...What's wrong with patting yourself on the back? If you make a good call, there's nothing wrong with it.I agree Perfect. I was was right when I said we'd go 3-0 against you guys this season. Anyone with half a brain could have predicted that. It's a terrible match-up on both sides of the ball.

Blah, blah, blah...why do you always need to prove you were right? Blah, blah, blah...it's so exhausting. Blah, blah, blah... What's wrong with patting yourself on the back? If you make a good call, there's nothing wrong with it.

Kirk Penton ‏@PentonKirk 22s For the record, when I asked Mike O'Shea last night if he thought Drew Willy's injury was serious, he said: "No." #Bombers

It's professional sports. Calls are going to go for, and against you. Crazy concept, I know.

Willy pushed it tonight, I believe that was about the 4th time in the game that he decided he was going to take off and gain yards himself. With Solly and Bighill roaming wild that was a poor strategy and everyone had to know the price was going to be paid in blood at some point. The clock was ticking down on the half and no points could have been scored so it was all the more unwise to risk injury. O'Shea or Marcel should have told him to stop with the running and save it for later in the game if needed. Hope to god it wasn't Buck on the other end of the headset advising him what to do! Willy was running because that's what was available to him. You can't tell him not to run if there are yards to be gained. Injuries are a part of the game and they can happen inside or out of the pocket. If you want to be critical of anything, be critical of the fact that given the time left that we simply didn't take the knee and took our chances in the second half - And that's not on Willy.