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he may have given them the best chance to win, but most games he'd do just enough to not win. It's not surprise that they would have been looking for more. A lot of things got attributed to Mack that Lapo has flat out said were his ideas. Brink was one, Crowton was another, people just seem more willing to blame Mack.

well what's your definition of nice?

but lets say that Goltz goes on to be this teams starting qb for the next number of years and swiston and pencer wind up being solid starters on the o-line.... would it then not stand to reason that the guy actually knew what he was doing?

didn't Lapo put to rest all that nonsense that he was forced to start Brink anyway? God the media in Winnipeg are nothing but a bunch of rumour mongers. They'd improve their shows ten fold if they'd read threads from here instead of talking themselves.

The actual legacy will be more like: re-built team depth but couldn't hire a good coach to save his job.

no not really, they always had someone as a draft coordinator helping but mack still had the final say. For example, there's talk that Walters (AGM and NI guy) apparently wanted Edem while Mack wanted Mulumba.

but even that muamba pick was a potential pick rather than the safest right now pick. The o-linemen was considered the safe and smart pick. Hell even looking at the Etienne pick, Parker was considered a better receiver pick than Etienne but you'd be hard pressed to say right now that it's farther apart than it is. Cory Watson was considered a right now pick when Mack took him as well and it still took some time for him to become any sort of impact player. People just have this unreasonable expectations about how quickly draft picks are ready. I think part of this is because the only time Taman actually kept his first round draft pick they wound up with Labatte who stepped in right away and was real good, but that draft was unusual with how many quality o-linemen it had.

$200000 is probably over shooting it a bit. probably more like $100000-$150000

haha more like board member contacts Lawless "Hey Gary meet me at the coffee shop have I got some news for you!"

Crowton isn't the only guy handling the offense though... I think the big issue is that we simply have the wrong guys all around coaching the offense.

Lawless should be banned regardless. That guy is such a useless media personality.

toronto has maas as qb coach.

technically Crowton is the qb coach, we've been over this before, it's not like they don't have a guy to coach qbs. I'm not saying they shouldn't have a seperate one, I'm just saying that trying to imply that the difference between winning and losing in the CFL is that positional coach is stupid and shortsighted. There's no magic bullet here, this post is clearly trying to say that there is.

one year wonder receivers or offensive coaches so bad they destroy talented players?

circumstantial evidence. Toronto, Saskatchewan Calgary and BC all have proven winning offensive coordinators. I can just as easily turn around and say that is the reason. They all also have proven quarterbacks in the prime of their careers while the other teams do not (Burris and Calvillo being in the twilight of theirs, WInnipeg with a broken vet and raw backups, edmonton with a bunch of raw qbs) I don't buy for a second that the difference between winning in the CFL and losing is a qb coach. I don't think it's bad to have one, I just don't see it as the reason teams either do good or they don't.

My thoughts are that if the guy you want is available now then bring them in without wasting time, if you want someone you have to wait til the offseason for then wait for them. The only thing that matters is hiring the right person. Do that and everything else will take care of itself.

All this being made about the leak.. I'd be shocked if the board didn't already know full well who it was that was the leak and slapped their wrists already.

yes I think it is better. I think the middle of the depth is better as well. That'd be the 6th and 7th type starters. It's really just the top end guys in my mind that are not as good.

overall depth is better for the NIs. We don't have a Doug Brown or Brendan Labatte right now who are at the top of the pedestal but the bottom part of the NI equation is so much better than it used to be it's not even funny.

so much this. transit in calgary is fine if you're going to or from downtown, but if you're going anywhere else via transit it's brutal. It's a city built around driving, but there's really a problem with having a few major roads that you almost have to take to get anywhere and at rush hour it can become total insanity. Granted I live on the south edge of the city, but I've spent over an hour driving across the city just because of the volume of traffic. Calgary is just such a massive city compared to Winnipeg, not so much population, but the area it occupies. If you're going from one end of the city to the other it's a long way to go.

I'm more disappointed they didn't bring in better I tackles.

but the team was so lacking in NIs in many many places you can't say that they shoulda only drafted OL. I mean they need linebackers with that being a NI position, they need DBs with safety being a NI position, they always seem to want some NI DL. Given that they use 2 americans on the OL I don't know that the amount of OL they have taken is the real issue.

Just focus on getting the right GM and tell them they're free to bring in whoever they want at HC and that will take care of itself.

well the problem is that Woodson can't ever stay healthy