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Did you know that a safety is also a DB? I sure didn't.

At the training camp sessions I've attended over the years, I notice they mostly watch a few minutes, enough to satisfy the blurbs they need (best catch, scrap of the day etc.) but don't really watch enough to know what is going on beyond what they are told by coaches. I've been to training camp sessions where a guy literally makes one nice catch but drops everything else, slow out of his breaks, quitting on his routes, basically everything bad a receiver can do, and he's touted as a guy who should be in a battle to make the team because the reporter was watching for the 3 minutes where the guy made a great catch and didn't have any drops. The one I went to last year when I also picked up my tickets, I saw a number of media guys hanging out around the entrance of IGF and kind of watched for them throughout the practice, they didn't really come in and pay attention until they started scrimmaging, missing all the positional groups and 1 on 1's (2 on 2's and 4 on 5 pass pro) between OL/DL, REC/DB's, and the pass skelly, important stuff if you are going to actually look critically at guys. I always put more stock into what the regular posters here say about training camp performances than what the reporters say. Only guy who was worth a damn was Tait and that's mostly because he seemed to just ask either the coach or GM who was standing out. I just don't believe any of the other guys have the actual insight to say anything of consequence.

Are we really prepared to make that statement given some of the refereeing we've seen lately?

I said the same thing to Noeller this afternoon, maybe Popp is more concerned with landing an NFL gig and Wettenhall is pushing him out.

I don't think it's as bad as it used to be, all the other countries are so well scouted these days that they all lose their best to the NHL too. Except for maybe Russia and sissies like Radulov and Kovalchuk who can't handle the NHL.

really is. I hate that the NFL has become so big to a lot of Canadians just because it's so massively hyped up.

They really are. I play a bunch of rec league stuff and I always have jokes made at my expense for wearing Bomber gear, not because the Bombers suck, but because the CFL is a joke to these people. Yes there are CFL fans in Calgary, but most of them are rider fans. True Stamps fans are a rare breed because people are either like I said Rider fans or NFL fans because they have to follow what is hyped the most.

Calgary just has too many douchebags who would rather follow UFC and **** like that or desperately want to be "big time" and only care about the NFL.

Lots of the good players in Canada do this too, it's intentional because they need to get more rotation on the swingy arena ice. I guarantee you were taught the same way I was where it's a simple turn of the wrist, and that works well on club ice but on arena ice no chance. I think that will be where the difference is, the euro teams are not used to playing on that kind of ice and the adjustment throws them off whereas a team like Jones has played on that type of ice tons and knows how to do it without screwing up the line.

i'll withold comment to wait and see what happens to Bomber attendance if they start poorly and the "newness" of IGF wears off a bit... houses. stones. glass. etc. Oh please, Bomber fans have seen shitty teams for long stretches before, there's a base of 18000-20000 who show up regardless of how the team plays.

The one way up high are far away but they're still pretty good seats if you want to be someone not in the endzone.

I'm excited about o'shea for sure, it's the coordinators that make me nervous.

I am not going to comment on the positional coaches because I haven't seen enough of them and as a rookie head coach I think we need to give o'shea the benefit of the doubt for now, but the OC and DC? Very underwhelming. Remember these guys were out of the league until the Bombers got desperate and gave them a job. That doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Really seems like they were digging to the bottom of the barrel to get these guys. I hope they prove me wrong but based on past history I dunno.

This is what I was wondering too. He did talk about not going to play in Ottawa at all so I suspect that was strategic so that they could leave him unprotected.

what? Are you saying we are like the Vikings? Minnesota variety?

Or maybe you shouldn't just talk out of your ass. You said there was a lack of experience, you're completely 100% wrong about that, it's just that the experience isn't great. What you're doing here is trying to move the goal posts. You'd be better off just admitting that you were wrong on your comment and then move on.

maybe thats the reason why they are not announcing it, they dont want to disappoint the fans. why start worrying about that now? Disappointing the fans is where the Bombers are a viking.

New jerseys suck and are synonymous with one of the worst periods in Bomber history.

a team with a lame duck head coach that fired a GM mid season had locker room troubles? The hell you say.

Don't worry about Burris, he's happy as long as he's getting paid and no one is questioning his place on the team. Biggest suck in the league.

Yeah I would think that Walters knew damned well that Matthews was gone and Edwards was retiring before he even had the chance to try and sign Moore.

As usual Captain 20-20 hindsight calls another correct prediction. As usual Mr. Irrelevant has nothing really to say. Last year I chose Edwards as the surprise TC cut and I was wrong. This year I said he'd likely not make it to TC and I was right. Just cuz you didn't see it coming, doesn't mean others were also blind. If you keep predicting an older player to retire every year sooner or later I suppose it's bound to happen.... Seriously are you really going to boast about that? Everyone knew Edwards was getting near the end of the line.

It absolutely is a total change in the team. Very few veterans left around anymore. About the only guy from the old leadership group is January.

Guy had really really good hands. He regularly made catches that I don't know he had any business making. The only thing I didn't like was his habit of trying to draw flags all the time but he always produced for this team.

For a guy who was an after thought pick up and not even guaranteed to make the team his first season here he really was a great player for us. Yeah he slowed down lately but he'll be missed for sure.