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This is by far the best CFL message board out there.

The only thing Jones knows about class is the ass part.

OK but the D is a lot better since then. Not in terms of turnovers but in terms of giving up less yards and getting themselves off the field faster. We can't overlook that. The coverage has tightened up a lot from the start of the year and the line is taking control more often too.

Probably because there were already enough people shitting all over Willy.

And if Willy had gone out and had the start that Nichols did last night the story would be entirely different for some people. There would be lots of "D won the game for him" like there was in that first Hamilton game. There is right now a double standard between the two quarterbacks. Some people see Willy as being unable to do anything bad and gloss over the good he does and some people gloss over the bad Nichols does. There was more than just a qb change for this team and it is unfair to put it all on the qbs. Nichols had a rough game last night that's undeniable, but they made enough plays on offense to overcome the bad and the D and special teams won the battle big time so it was a good win for the team. These are things that weren't happening with regularity early in the season and confidence was down across the board for all players and it showed in the results. Now some good things have happened and the teams confidence is sky high. This team for the past several years has been driven by momentum. When they have it things are great but when they don't have it they can't get it back and things snowball on them.

Ahh it was always too early to pull Nichols last night. Yeah he was off but gotta give guys a chance to work it out.

chat is usually infinitely superior to the game thread from my perspective. Unless the team is losing, then they're both terrible, but during wins it's great.

Never tell me the odds

I saw the wonder woman trailer and my thoughts were "wow they're trying real hard to be a female captain america"

you take a lesser guy and he may never play for you anyway. In that draft all the good players were getting NFL shots and Mulumba was seen as a long shot and a gamble worth taking. That he actually turned out to have better success sticking in the NFL is just bad luck for Winnipeg. Every draft pick is a gamble in the CFL.

GMs are much more likely to give a chance to rookies than coaches and let's be honest here, some of those guys you've listed as starting aren't even starting and some of them only got the chance because of injuries. Rookies are an unknown, coaches hate unknowns.

by the time you lose enough bodies on the offensive and defensive line that you run out of bodies the game will be nearly over anyway so it's not worth it, which is why no one dresses that many people. And if you've having that many injuries you're probably not winning the game anyway so you just play out the string however you can and bring in bodies during the week before the next game. Some people here I swear really try and over think things.

Every coach will play experience ahead of rookies until they have no choice. After the rookie gets a chance and proves himself you might see a change.

but all the top guys that year were going to try the NFL.

I might have been drinking but I am certain that Thomas has gone in on the OL this season.

You know until this year the thing that crippled the team was having to go to the depth and the depth not being able to play, this year we actually have guys coming off the bench into the game doing well. THAT is what people talk about when they say the roster is better. We now have some depth to get through injuries and actually push starters (possibly even out of the lineup) this is the first time since Walters has been here we can actually say that.

Here is a big one... This is the first year the bombers have had any kind of depth at qb. Not the only position with much better depth either

It's also ******* true.

Ho hum, they'll pay the fine and then keep on keeping on cause they don't care about spending their way out of problems. Should have came down with a punishment that actually made them stand up and take notice that they can't keep flaunting the rules like this.

Because laughing at the Riders is always welcome.

That he's above the law. This is not a new thing for him either. Remember how he left Calgary for Toronto? That broke the rules too, then there was his departure to Saskatchewan which was again shady as ****. Guy thinks he doesn't have to follow the same rules as everyone else and I hope beyond hope that the CFL finally nails him to the wall for being an absolute **** head but I am not hopeful. The league can't even suspend players never mind disciplining a GM.

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I sincerely hope that you are right. I want to see the league come down hard on this just to set an example. Jones has taken the arrogance to a whole new level and he needs to be slapped back to reality.

The sad part is the CFL probably doesn't have the means to do anything meaningful about this. They'll just hand down a paltry fine and the Riders will say "Hey we paid the price" and carry on being the **** heads they are. Meanwhile changes will come and no one will have any leeway in the future. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of the league assholes. AND YOU'RE STILL A TERRIBLE TEAM! That's the most embarrassing part of all this.