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Does he not have options at backup? Walters brings in OK vets but no rookies.

Johnny Adams is hurt and Demond Washington went to FA and we lost him. Those two were the best players in the secondary last year and now we got a bunch of rookies and over rated players like Bruce Johnson expected to do heavy lifting.

we fired Lapo twice before mostly because he was too passive so I don't buy that. He's the same old Lapo. Why did we expect different results? we saw him here twice before and thought so much of him that we fired him.

Dressler hasn't played more than 5 minutes all year, Smith isn't doing much without the support of a real #! guy, kind of like Denmark. Shologan has been over rated from day 1, he's the kind of guy you can hide when he's surrounded with better players. Cumming and Westerman I got no problems with but the other end spot is a hot mess and has been Walters entire time here. Posey and Fogg are getting worked over, Johnson isn't as good as people said. Bass may have been good last year but he ain't done **** this year, it happens.

Yeah Wild Randle and Harris are the only guys on D doing anything positive. Bass is MIA, Westerman hasn't been consistent yet, I think Cummings is OK at disrupting things but the rest, steaming pile of crap.

The D has to take it's share of the blame for being on the field so long last night. Calgary adjusted after the first quarter and ran the ball down their throats. They had plenty of chances to get themselves off the field and did not do it. Soft zone coverage and no tackling on the stamps runningbacks. They were worse than the offense last night even without the 4th quarter.

Yeah and I cautioned people that we said the same thing last year and the year before. Simple fact is we aren't good enough anywhere right now. Messam ran guys over and tackles were missed all night, that's not coaching, that's guys not being good enough.

Macho Harris might be the defensive MVP last night, but it's a low bar. Fogg and Posey got beat up in the secondary all night and the front 7 gave up over 200 yards rushing, that is the kind of night it was for the defense. No one was good but Harris at least looked OK.

I wouldn't really blame Willy though, there was a distinct Lapo flavour to that game. Mid throw on first down, run stuffed on 2nd and short and you're punting the ball. He wasn't perfect but he was far from the biggest problem with the offense last night. He did have a decent completion % even before the 4th quarter. Bigger problem was Harris was no where to be found early on. They tried to get him room but he had none. This team has bigger issues that just the qb. Part of me wonders if good old passive to a fault until it's out of reach Lapo is playing too safe and making it easy for defenses to shut him down.

Forget looking for a new HC, if we're looking for anyone find a GM who can get some talent on this team. Secondary needs help, d-line is a mess, linebackers didn't do much. RB can't find any room until the 4th quarter, receivers not making a huge impact. It's not coaching.

Why? I had a real good seat to watch the abortion last night and there were maybe 2 plays all night where the D-Line actually got pressure on the stamps qb, they gave up nearly 200 yards rushing before the 4th quarter had even hit and were over 400 yards given up overall before the 4th as well. The runningbacks had no room to work with until the Stamps D backed off in the 4th, the best looking receivers were the rookies. This team is lacking talent in a big way. You don't get the ball run down your throat like it was last night when you are a talented team. The problems are players more than coaches at this point, I honestly believe that.

people interpreted the word in a different manner.

Seems like Montreal has a discipline problem, maybe that's why we beat them at football nearly half the time.

Do you remember how unwilling Lapo was to change his qbs out when he was coaching here before?

Bomber fans are the best fans in the league.

I know as Bomber fans we're supposed to **** all over him but Durant is a good qb, if he's healthy that's a big plus for the Riders.

Sadly we've seen more rider losses than bomber wins lately.

Oh no it's terrible, I was using the term in the sense that yeah it's bad but at least....

So first of all, the value difference between Eberle and Yakupov is significant AND there is no way that Edmonton gives up one of them AND Nurse and only gets Barrie back who needs a new contract. The Hall and Larsson deal might suck but at least Larsson had a long cheap contract.

It was Walters not O'Shea that put such a poor OL on the field and had no qb depth behind Willy so I don't buy your argument. Our receivers besides the oft injured Moore were pretty terrible last year as well and I am not convinced that we are really any better at that position this year either with Dressler on the shelf.

The problem is that if you fire MOS it's still the ineffectual Kyle Walters at GM. Unless you think we have all sorts of talent and the coaches are simply not getting the best out of it... but me I think this team lacks talent more than it lacks coaching.

Because if Edmonton had anyone like Weber they wouldn't have needed to trade for a defenceman in the first place. Chiarelli got desperate and sold Hall for pennies on the dollar. There are no character issues or salary issues or any of that, simply desperation for a right handed defenceman and paid a premium to gamble on Larsson developing into a guy that might be worth Hall some day. He better turn into that guy though cause Taylor Hall is one of the absolute best 5 on 5 point producers in the NHL, and he's done it on a shitty team with a terrible puck moving blue line backing him up. Just gross that there wasn't even a token plus coming back from the Devils.

Etch seemed like a nice guy, Jones is just a dink. Guy obviously has some insecurities to be that confrontational with everyone.

So true, just complete ******* the sports fans in this city. On and off the bandwagon like you wouldn't believe.