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Yeah first time I saw Milt and Sanchez on the same panel I wondered how it would go because Dirty Sanchez has taken more than a few absolutely cheap and dirty shots at Milt in their playing careers. Guys don't forget **** like that.

Actually there are only 2 ways the game can go and neither one is what I would call a good football game. It'll either be a complete **** show of a turnover fest or the Riders will get their asses handed to them if the Bombers play clean and don't have a bunch of turnovers. So there's your choice. An ass ugly game that the Riders might have a chance of winning or the Bombers stomp the Riders like they did last time they played.

Yeah exactly, don't turn the ball over and there is no way the Riders can win the game.

The Riders are without a doubt the worst 12 win team in the history of the CFL.

I really believe that if he played the whole game Streveler would have won the game. Offense really got bogged down with Bennett in.

Sounds to me like the absolute essence of science right there. Hypothesis being formed and then tested.

Look I believe Trestman is a very good coach, but he's not a miracle worker. And don't bring up Buono, he has won cups with shitty quarterbacks, lest we forget 2001 when Marcus ******* Crandell beat the Bombers. Never mind that Wally has brought in a **** load of great qbs to this league where as Trestman has come in with the reputation as a quarterback whisperer and only had success with already established great qbs. Even Lapo has developed more at qb than Trestman. So like I said, good coach, but pretty over rated at this point.

I do wonder about Trestman and Reilly though.... Trestman excelled with Calvillo and Ray, two guys who didn't run around and improvise a lot and were able to be more methodical. So much of Reilly has been chucking it deep on broken plays or just going deep in general. Does he have the ability to play a different way? I just find that Trestman is getting pretty over rated because he's won some Grey Cups with already great quarterbacks. Hell the Argos with Ray weren't even that good a team, just got a big win in the big game.

Based on what? Which QB has Trestman turned into a star in the CFL? He's had success with Calvillo and Ray, two already HOF worthy QBs before Trestman ever got his hands on them.

Shut your hole Wang Chung!

I remember hearing last year there were some concerns about poop not giving enough of a poop.

Which is a classic Jones move.

well they were targeting democrats and jews, those can hardly be called people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzUKcXxbU4U

It's the shoulder pads that really sell it. Perfect.

no one wants to have a conversation with rider fans

Not really, you were implying that it would be injuries holding the Riders back. The reason the Riders are held back is because they don't have an offense. You don't win Grey Cups without one facet of a team. Your team is smoke and mirrors, just accept that fact and it will be a lot less painful when the Bombers kick your ass in the playoffs and send you all back to your hovels to cry all winter long.

Pretty banged up has nothing to do with it. You don't win the Grey Cup with 2/3 of a team at best.

If Saskatchewan wins the Grey Cup I'll eat my hat.

I wouldn't ever expect the Riders to mature to be honest. The culture there is one of selfishess.

Here's the thing about the Riders... they have a handful of very talented players that they rely on, and I would say they have a more aggressive and varied scheme on defense... but across the board the Bombers are a deeper team everywhere than the Riders are. It's pretty easy to make a statistical case for the Bombers being superior in every facet to the Riders. Just that the Riders managed to get some big plays out of their defense. That doesn't mean they are a better group though, because the Bombers D makes a lot of big plays too, just doesn't take em to the endzone as much, but then again they don't have to cause our offense can take them there.

The riders secondary is not better than the bombers.

I'm not the *******, everyone else is.

this guy agrees with you completely.

They're not so big on the first amendment either so ya, only for guns.