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Plus they're a pretty old team to start with. Never gonna build a dynasty there.

Because it's an obvious example of the blidners this team has had in certain areas that have held them back and led to the situation they are currently in.

Regardless of who the backup was they were a better option than a qb who can't use his hand.

Zach collaros couldn't grip the ball! Oshea talked about giving players a chance to be great putting an injured guy back out, we'll how about giving a backup the chance to be great? Collaros wasn't hurt, he was injured and couldn't do his basic job. It's negligence to trot him out there. Yeah the backup might have sucked... but at least they could grip a ball.

I mean do we really need a top down rebuild? There's still some good pieces here, just need to add some stars which could be done in free agency... and then jetison some dead weight. Things aren't as dire as all that yet.

Well it's a lot easier to fool yourself when you are first in the west and playing for the grey cup compared to 4th in the west and meekly bow out in the east semi-final.

And you can maybe excuse them for playing collaros in 2022 with the bum ankle.... but leaving him in when he couldn't grip the ball in 2024... just inexcusable. And dressing 3 hurt receivers and a hurt bighill in 2023 is just inexcusable.

I've seen more than a few critical takes on Maas for playing a hurt Alexander

So walters has been trimming some old folks pretty consistently in offseasons. I'd expect that to continue. I think they need to get back into trying to snag some key pieces through free agency again and put some focus on the lines again.

WHAT IS HAPPENING???!!!?

You gotta believe. Otherwise you just become miserable.

Well there's always hope... I never lost hope in the darkest times with this team, why lose it now?

If they get their fire back and stop resting on their laurels it will be ok.

Why? Coach is gonna play slugs like tho.as regardless. We need to end the country club surrounding this team and value talent as much as intangibles.

Well they let wolitarsky walk for clercius.... thats part and parcel of succession planning. You are super obsessed with numbers, yet a guy like Bailey as an example had success here but didn't have it elsewhere. Situations matter. But you are again missing the entire point, the point here is oshea makes bad decisions with the roster, included in that is dressing guys who have shown they are not totally useless and then giving them 0 reps while 3 other players at the same position can barely move yet play the whole game. So how can we trust that oshea is making the best choices possible? We can't.

The entire point of my post is that we didn't need to have Thomas in the first place!

The point is, we regularly play subpar Canadian starters and guys with high upside don't get reps just because they're rookies.... and with BOLO it is more an example of even when guys are too hurt to play he stood on the sidelines... he might not be a super star but he's IMO better than Corcoran and clercius and we lost him because of that lack of opportunity when it was teed up on a platter for a guy to step up. I know you got your lips firmly planted on O'Shea's backside but things don't work in the black and white way you think.

Except we know that's not true... we had high drafted guys this past year never got a sniff because of Americans in the way. BOLO was healthy and can contribute yet didn't take a snap in a Grey cup game where 3 receivers were dinged up.... osh isn't flawless. He plays guys and not others for lots of different reasons.

We routinely played more Canadians than required so does it matter if we don't use the advantage?

I am a big believer in momentum and the role it plays within a game... Montreal hangs onto that pick 6 early and gets the early touchdown as well I see the game going entirely differently. Instead sask answers the one td and never gives up momentum again... until late when the als do start to come back but that goal line fumble just killed it. Can not be so careless with the ball in that situation.

That game from the als looked an awful lot like a couple recent grey cups... offense just totally unable to string anything together because they're trotting out a guy who isn't at 100%

Yeah they tried their best to emulate the Bombers. Total younger sibling syndrome.

This game just reinforces how key it is to win the line of scrimmage.

The definition of "you had ONE job!"

Don't play hurt qbs in grey cup games!