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But collaros only started the last regular season game and playoffs. What really eliminated the inconsistencies from that team were the tweaks they made to the secondary. Shored up what could at times be a bit leaky pass defense into a rock solid group and let a dominant front 7 feast.

Honestly I think Streveler running eoughshod over the stamps in 2019 is what broke them. Collaros was more key in beating sask for sure, and then the grey cup collaros didn't do a ton. D set the table and Harris did the rest.

Jeeze I hope that attitude is just his way of hyping himself up cause id that's his honest assessment of himself....

Well my biggest memory or matt nichols prior to the Bombers is his leg bending at an angle legs don't bend at and then with a gimped shoulder from his time as a bomber. But we see it everywhere. Guys start out making throws everywhere on the field and then as the years progress with lapo they give up the middle and it's either a deep shot or check downs and usually an injury somewhere along the way.

I don't get that from him to be honest... when he's had to play rookies before it's been no problem. With Osh it's more of a "once you have secured your spot you don't lose it" kind of thing.

That 2019 playoff defense was just scary good. As dominant a D as I think we've seen. Hamilton was a pretty damned good offense that season and the Bombers D made them soil themselves.

Look the reality is that the more time a qb spends with Paul lapolice the more they become only a game manager and get their ass kicked in the process.

Jesus christ with the you have to earn it ****... what more could Smith have done last year to earn reps? By the end of the season guy was very noticeable every time he was on the field (pretty much only special teams). It's great to say osh will start a Canadian over an American but I don't believe that's universal. Osh loves veterans and guys who are established. He won't take reps away from them unless something forces his hand.

My money is on Tony Jones being an untouchable lock at MLB and the other spot Wilson with a chance Santos l halper beats him out...

To me he's just being a smartass... and yeah the point you make is there too it's not mean, it's just a humorous truth. Most people don't have the required background to properly judge what's happening at training camp. That being said I appreciate every single one of the accounts from camp even if they're full of crap, and all those preseason heroes Mike threw into the post is a fun reminder of how us fans get at this time of the year.

Yeah but prior to coming here the history suggested that collaros wouldn't be healthy enough to make grey cup games Yeah everyone knows he played a long time...

Collaros is getting a lot of cred for team success IMO. I ain't seeing him go off for 700 yards in a game.

Hey I never suggested Jones... my first thought truthfully was dunigan

Collaros now? Lots because collaros looks pretty much toast more often than not. Prime collaros is a different question.

Grey cup winning roster if I ever saw one......

All those are amazing options.... but how do you not go with a qb?

And go.... I know you'll have a mountain of names to bring up

Or you know... build that grass roots base. Make the games an event worth going to... but that kind of thing is hard and takes time. Easier to throw **** at the wall and hope it sticks.

Functional organizations have that communication so I think all the trying to assign credit or blame anywhere for draft picks is futile. I'm sure the scouts and gm brought a whole list of guys they were interested in and got coaches thoughts on all of them and how they might fit them in.

I don't believe it does at all. It's a long season and lots can change from may long weekend to November. Say the #1 team all year loses their starting qb and the #6 team made a few tweaks and went gangbusters to end the season. Which situation you want to be in? The entire summer is now just an extended pre-season. Yeah if you wind up in a 1vs.2 game you get a mulligan but you still need to string wins together in the playoffs to get to the grey cup.

Counterpoint.... I'm always going to cheer for the slow white guy just because.

Chad Kelly needs a wingman too