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Finding a way to what exactly? No I'm watching our offense struggle, and become inept after halftime no.matter who is at qb. Collaros better than streveler. Sure but neither one is showering themselves in glory due to other offensive factors

Doesn't matter if they do what we want or not, all we're saying is, if they used their roster better they could get more out of their defensive line and improve the defense dramatically. Cfl field is too big to never pressure a qb.

Collaros wasn't getting it done either despite hitting a few random deep shots here and there too.

I'd rather make it in the west and got into calgary and Regina and beat those assholes when it matters.

No GM worth a damn wants to be saddled with a head coach not of his choosing.

So explain why guys who were in camp are doing better than the departed Bridges.... that right there blows your entire argument out of the water.... cause those guys outperformed Bridges in camp too. You just refuse to admit that the coaches are fallible. It's OK. You know 2018ish I too was of the opinion that walters was more of an issue that Oshea, but Kyle Walters showed himself to be a proactive gm who could build a damn good roster whereas Oshea maintained his at times bonkers roster building and usage mindset. Given that we've also heard lots of rumors about walters leaving and Oshea being gm, is it a stretch to think oshea has a large say in players brought in these days? I dunno, I just know our roster usage is subpar and because of that issue it's really hard to judge what this team actually does have.

The only way things change after camp is if someone gets hurt. The stark difference in the preseason game between the #1s and #2s should have been eye opening.

Osh writes his depth chart in pen before camp even opens. The lack of competition is at a point where it's hurting the team badly now that the superstars are aging fast.

No no no, ticats D was a tire fire. Slight difference

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Which was his problem last year too. He was solid when he got in last year though. Just seems odd to me the idea some people have that anyone we cut MUST go be a superstar somewhere else ornelse they are a scrub... there's a whole wide area in between... plus we already dress and play more than our own fair share of scrubs.

Now post, but with MORE YELLING!

No, it's ok to trash him as a first reaction. There's probably something he deserves it for.

Don't need to practise, just watch the film

Cause our offense is LOL bad.

My thoughts are he is old and can't go all put anymore without being totally gassed. Which is why he can leave it all out there in a Grey cup but not every week. Need more depth to keep guys fresh and able to go hard

Plus we saw streveler run over a guy last night. His issue is the explosion... but he's still a tough SOB. Both our qbs look like garbage and a lot of it is what's going on on the rest of the offense.

Yeah every time he gets knocked the **** out they call it a neck injury. If you believe that I've got some oceanfront property to sell... for cheap...

Guy who has won games in this league isn't going to just disappear when you consider some of the absolutely abysmal guys who hang around rosters. That was tongue in cheek because of the state of our offense and people blaming the backup qb because it's easy.

Well that's just flat out wrong. Look how long guys like dom Davis kocked around. Strev has a lot more tread on his tires and if he's not here watch him go somewhere and suddenly learn how to play.

I'm going to take an unpopular stance here and not throw streveler under the bus... that first int I blame the play call. Sure he could have not thrown it (and likely been sacked) but that's the play, out of the hands quick. Was on target, the problem, as it is every time they call that play, is that the defense is not fooled at all and sits there waiting for it. That one I put squarely on the play call. The 2nd int yeah that one probably shouldn't have been thrown. Of course collaros throws ints like that a bunch too. Had one just before half last game very similar. Problem with it last night is again, defense sitting on top of everything g because not once before garbage time did we even consider threatening them deep. Sure if you want streveler to overcome all the problems that we see with collaros too he didn't do it, but it's not like he's the only problem. At this point in the season it's abundantly clear that the #1 problem with the offense is the coordinator.

There was one play a guy got a hand on his shoulder as he threw but that's all I can recall

I think we could all live with Lawson and Jake splitting one spot. And then some better depth all around on the line. It's really just that simple. Jake gets gassed real fast.

For what we're getting from Jones and Wilson we could easily swap one position to Canadian and use Americans else where... and j.jones may have lost his job i Toronto (injury related if I recall), but Tony Jones lost his job in edmonton to a rookie so why bring that up? The point is status quo isn't doing anything, time to see what else we have and if it's better great if not then keep looking.

Linebackers isn't a problem, but it's not an answer either. They make tackles but they don't make many plays.