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Actually 3 big plays and we didn't get the 3rd one.

Yes I've played football and no, that doesn't matter one bit. Who said 90 degree turn? No one! Slow down. Put your hands out. Don't lead with your shoulder. Any one of these would likely have meant no penalty. These are professional athletes with amazing reflexes not kids playing 6 man football or high schooler's playing 12 man. D Lineman can change direction. So can smaller, lighter DB's if they choose to. Alexander chose to go for the bit hit. If he wasn't under control or didn't know where the ball was, that's on him. If he jarred the ball loose it wouldn't be a penalty and if my Auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. He didn't jar the ball loose because the receiver didn't have the ball. That's the point. He was late and no, it's not just me saying that, it's the command center. You obviously don't agree with them, and that's fine, but it's the way it is these days so you might as well get used to it.

Of course they count, but to say we were close in a game where we obviously weren't is Rider fan level of self deception.

5 yards is a bit of an overstatement. I corrected it to past the receiver. It doesn't matter how many yards past. Past is past. If there's someone here who can go frame by frame and show where the ball is at the moment of contact, that'd be great. It's about going for the big hit vs playing the ball & he was 100% going for the big hit. That's premeditation, not mind reading. When you do that in modern football, you better get your timing right. Too early and it's a penalty. Too late and it's a penalty. The Ref on the field in real time thought the timing was OK. The Refs in the Command center, with more time and more angles, thought it was late and they are allowed to overturn that call due to the rules. I agree with the command center. Most around here don't, because it cost us a penalty and kept one of their drives going. I suspect that they'd think differently if Adams was the one getting blown up, but fans around here say they wouldn't change their minds. I guess we'll have to revisit it when one of ours gets knocked out with a 'clean' hit. This is the first time I can remember that the Command center over turned a missed call like this, but I expect it won't be the last. Coaches are going to have to teach DB's to tackle properly, to watch the ball, and to be under control, just like they taught the D lineman a few years back.

We were outplayed in all facets of the game. The only reason we were close was the 2 huge plays. The strip the QB and return for a TD and Adams TD.

You think I've been somehow waiting for 2 years for a specific play just so I can say it's a penalty? Wow, what a maroon! It was premeditated because he targeted the receiver without knowing where the ball was. He was 100% going for the kill shot. If the ball wasn't past the receiver or the receiver had his hand on the ball, then it's a good play to remove the player from the ball, but that's not what happened. It was dangerous and dirty because he lowered the boom on an unprotected player, knocking him out. The whining about my negativity always starts when positrons know I'm right.

How do we know that?

It was premeditated. It was dangerous. It was dirty. It was penalized. I suspect that Alexander will be fined this week.

I believe it was a valid penalty and should have been called right away. Defenceless receiver, ball already past him, DB making no attempt to play the ball instead, choosing to go for the kill shot. It's a dirty play and exactly the kind of play they want to get rid of in today's CFL. If Alexander had been a 1/2 second earlier, or the ball wasn't over the receivers head, then it wouldn't be a penalty, but those aren't the facts.

For arguments sake, lets flip the jersey's. Adams is the one getting knocked out by exactly the same hit, do you still want them to let it go?

Completely disagree.

Re: Alexander roughing. The ball was 5 yards past the receiver, the receiver was in a vulnerable position, the hit was both unnecessary and to the head. It's the kind of play that needs to be taken out of the game. I thought it should have been called right away, but I was surprised that it was called after a review.

Toronto took away the run and pressured Collaros. If it wasn't for the fumble for the TD and the 50 yarder to Adams, we'd have been embarrassed. Two big plays doesn't make a win-able game. FTR: It was PI and it was a rough play. Don't blame the refs.

Top teams: Wpg & Skn. The rest? Who knows?

Making them 1&1. The math isn't that hard.

If Hamilton goes on a winning streak, then I change my mind based on the new information. Using a 'what if' argument is weak, but it's what you do to bolster your argument. Both Regina and Winnipeg have played a 1 & 1 team and the same 0 & 2 team. I'd argue that BC is the better team with Reilly, but BC only used Reilly in the 2nd half and he wasn't right. A top team and THE top team are 2 different things.

I'm in my 60's and I've been to the cash machine twice this year to take out $80 a time. I still have $60 left in my wallet. Even buying crap off of Kijiji is cashless these days. I could live cashless right now. Cash can be faster until you get the old dude who wants to give exact change and has a wallet and 6 pockets to check before realizing that he doesn't have exact change. Tap can be faster until you get the old Dude who doesn't know exactly how it works or the machine that doesn't work properly.

Stanback

No one had any clue week 1. Hamilton & Calgary were obviously top teams in the league based on 2019. Turns out that's just not true this year. Week 2 gives us a slightly better clue. We now know that neither Hamilton or Calgary are top teams right now. Wpg, Reg, and Mtl are the top teams right now. That may change as the season progresses and injuries take their toll. As I said after the Riders first game... They shut it down after running up a big lead, and the Lions scored a bunch of points in garbage time. It reminded me of when we were a bad team that scored a bunch of points in garbage time. The 'Unicorns farting blue rainbows' group around here would go on and on ad infinitum about how close we were and how great our QB was and if this or that just went our way, we'd have won. Guess what? We weren't that close, our QB's only looked good in garbage time, and those things that needed to go our way rarely did. Mike... The really sad thing is you insist on making up what I would have done then complaining about it. All off season we've been told that Fajardo was crap, their O line was crap and their defence was crap and that their injuries would push them way down the standings. Here in week 3 it's starting to sound like wishful thinking rather than studied analysis. Some logic: Riders rank higher in most offensive stats except plays from scrimmage (155,149). Bombers rank higher in most defensive stats except sacks (8,2) and picks (4,3). Not much separating #1 from #2, but wait... they both played Hamilton so we can see how well they both did against the same team. Answer: Riders beat them 30-8 and we beat them 19-6. Of course, here on a Bomber forum, that doesn't matter. The consensus is that the Bombers are #1 and the Riders are crap. To say anything else raises the indignant ire of the pitchfork carrying rabble.

Well that made me laugh out loud. 😆 Common sense is what puts the team who beat Hamilton worse ahead of the one who didn't.

The Riders beat the one common opponent worse than we did, that's why I put them ahead of us in my standings. It's 2 games in, how else are you going to decide which unbeaten team is on top?

1. Riders: Faj-J-J is almost as good as the Riders fans think he is. The OL hasn't been a problem... yet. The injuries haven't either. Beat Hammy worse than we did. 2. Bombers: Haven't played a top half team yet. Our DL and OL are top units. Our kicking is still in flux. 3. Als: Only 1 game against a bottom level team, but looked great for the first game in forever. 4. Argos: 1 and 1 against Wpg and Cgy. Vet laden team with below average QB's. I expect them to drop next week. 5. Lions: Reilly is the difference maker and their coaching and D are way better this year. 6. redblacks: Got a win. 7. Ticats: Played the top 2 teams and lost both. Banks hasn't been the difference maker he was. 8. Stamps: BLM has been bad which makes the team bad. 9. Elks: Couldn't even beat Ottawa.

Every time I hear Michael Reilly, I hear Mike O'Reilly.

Only when it is. 😁

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