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fyp. this point and Mark's is why i feel like we could do them again. as for Mr Dee's point about Calgary not allowing itself to be outcoached, i would invite him to consider the possibility that they may not have any say in it. having said all that... the Argos still have to lick some ***** first.

Argos v Stamps. having 40k Saskahicks cheering for Toronto would amuse me to no end.

more likely Whyte's errant aim decided it than 1 call... whatever. i just hope the Argos smash the Cats for making me watch such a craptacular ESF (and because F the lolCats... but that should go without saying...) here's hoping a week Monday the front page of the sports section bears the headline "Argos lick the *******". EDIT: that shouldn't be censored! i meant the word as a synonym for "cats"...

Owens last year was bullshit, shoulda been Ray as the argos nominee then too cause without Ray Owens is not nearly as impressive a player. Ray makes everyone on offence better... but Owens was doing 3K yards before Ray. and his 3 X 3K in a row was/is unprecedented in pro football.

Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat.

Works the other way too if Redblacks value the non-import talent that the have Argos more than the Collaros. Could draft a QB like Glenn and develop a QB for 2-3 years. just saying, there's a potential coup here for the GM of a team that needs to improve at O-Line and QB right away.

posting in this thread because i had a random musing which kinda fits here and the more i think about it, the more i think this is coming. our Outstanding Lineman candidate is going to be a Redblack and Winnipeg's GM (whoever that is) should recognize and act on this. Toronto has too many good NIs to protect... so maybe we keep Collaros to shield Keeping? whatever comes, i figure that VZ, Eppele and Holmes get protected (along with Durie, Gabriel and Laing) which means that guys like Jeff Keeping, Matt Black and Spencer Watt are exposed. we might be praying that Ottawa takes ZC

The fact that he's always an automatic allstar selection and always shows up in the MOL category for the bombers and the way the commentary always hypes him up the reputation suggests he's a top teir o-lineman. I don't think he is, I think he's a good journeyman player but hardly elite. Oh please, you just don't like his name. What specifically is it about January's game that makes him not elite? top tier tackles will pretty much take over a game by imposing their will on the trench-battle. remember Murphy a couple years ago in BC (and his second year in Toronto)? he put his stamp on every game and his opposite number would never get a sniff of the QB or RB. he utterly demoralized defences just by making his side of the LOS into a fortress. i'm a January fan, but as good a player as he is, and as much as i enjoy his willingness to throw down, he's never been a guy who dominates. this isn't meant to be a criticism.

pretty good teams. i think i could win with one of those.

if you actually think that the Argos (who have 4 backups, all of whom are more promising than Goltz) would trade for Goltz... i'm petitioning Rich to change your userID to Wsniffsglue01.

I think Ottawa would rather have access to the NIs quite personally. I think there are enough options at qb that depending on who is available if they don't take a qb off someones roster they will trust in the ability to get a FA qb. Hell I think if Austin really is on the outs with Burris that he's the guy Ottawa will be targetting simply because he's a big name they can easily market. i get that having the sort of access to NIs that the league is giving the Redblacks is a once in a lifetime opportunity... but the only thing in our league more important than NI depth is having a top QB. so as Mike says... if Ottawa's powers-that-be have identified one QB as "their guy", then they must obtain him at the expense of all else.

off topic... since the Bombers are going to the West division... does that make the Bombers your favorite team in the West? favorite fanbase in the west, sure. but i'd have to root for the Senator's other team against the Bombers...

roadmap. apple.

Willy and Demarco are free agents, Burris is a free agent and I would imagine Hamilton will use that to protect Dan LF, Bo Levi will be protected by Calgary and I'm pretty sure Nichols is also a FA I can't ever remember so many QBs all FA at once …. doesn't give Ottawa much to pick from especially if we trade for Tate didn't "like" your post because i agreed with you... in fact, i doubt the WBBs go anywhere near Tate as a first option QB... i "like"d it because chimp in a suit with shades.

well... for the purposes of this thread, he is the GM...

lol! why stop there? i'm sure you could get Van Zeyl and Gabriel thrown in... that'll work against some teams who don't need a human-shield in the dispersal draft as the Argos do... but Collaros' value to us (as of the end of our season) is to either allow us to keep our NI assets, or to fetch us one that is as least as promising as the one we'd lose due to not having Collaros. (presuming he gets drafted...)

and you'd get turned down. a third pick and a maybe-next-year-pick isn't worth as much to the Argos as having Collaros as a shield to our other players in the dispersal draft... ie: the guys we protect because he gets taken would be worth more to us than a 3rd rounder.

BUMP!

also curious

both are very easily accomplished... really not sure if you're serious.

i think Lawless is right. i also suspect that he might have been given a knowing wink from Miller so that he can run this up the flagpole. in any other season (one without a dispersal draft) and under most other circumstances (like not being desperate for a QB and/or having a lameduck HC) it would virtuallly be a no-brainer to bring in a Higgins-type... but this season is different. and i think that a fast and adaptable organization ought to be able to (as Lawless says) already have a handshake deal with Barker and have had discussed terms with Collaros' agent... and should already have a HC on standby to name the second day of the offseason (after Burke gets relieved of his duties but before the dispersal draft).

I dunno, at least 2 of those TDs, the receiver was wide open (like 10 yards wide open) Banjo wasn't working. They were getting all tied up on who was supposed to take the inside or outside routes, that's what the Argos were exploiting. Really should have flipped to a more passive zone and force Ray to make a throw. If you really think that would have worked, clearly you were playing zero attention to what happened when the Argos were at IGF back in July. Same as tonight. They shred man and match coverages with the waggle and clearing routes. They try to stem the half on an inside route and then break it out, if the half or corner take the wrong route in that match coverage, Ray has a receiver all by himself. The other issue are the underneath routes, the DB's are afraid to jump them because they are worried about Ray hitting those routes over the top, or being too aggressive and the receiver turning a 4 yard route into a 50 yard play. It's unbelievably simple but well executed. Need to change the looks given by the defence. Milanovich has done a real nice job of bringing that Trestman offence to Toronto where you force the D to make a choice and then kill them with the other option. It's all one read, often pre-snap, just like Calvillo. You need to change the looks so that first read doesn't give Ray an easy throw and you can beat it. Burke had it down pretty good against Calvillo as a co-ordinator. that. elegantly stated. that's 3 times in 24 hours i've agreed with and/or quoted you... weird.

Hopefully he trades Collaros here for Steve Morely before making the jump. uh... no. Morley, Boatman, Dewitt, Parenteau... you can keep 'em all. (i'd take January back though)

Can you post a link? I feel vulnerable in unfamiliar territory. JBR kinda tipped it already, it's the Barker to Winnipeg thread on the first page of the Double Blue room

actually, i think that JBRs 3rd rounder plus a conditional 1st isn't unreasonable. but i also think that the rights to Bilukidi is a fair offer too. heck, we're losing the guy anyway...