bluto

agree with JBR. IF the Bomber management/personnel team (whoever that may end up as*) identify Collaros as their man, they have to be ruthless in pursuing him. this means dealing for him and getting him locked up prior to Ottawa getting a shot at him in December or Hamilton and Montreal taking a run at him in February. but heck... there's other guys out there and maybe he isn't their guy. so yeah, trading an NI prospect (who frankly, may stay south for another year or two pursuing his NFL dream) to get your shot at a potential long-term solution at QB is a good value. *interesting rumour about this on Argofans this week

could be a good deal for both sides... but i wouldn't do it if i was Winnipeg at this time. not because i don't think that it's a fair exchange of values, but because you may not have your starting NI LB after Feb 15 so trading away a prospective starting NI until the one you have is locked in is a bit dicey.

hey man. just sending some contracts in to my home office and then heading in to the city for dinner and warm up drinks. edit: paperwork done early. have time to kill, will be playing GTAV until i leave (4ish)

stupid TiCats. a time will come when we'll regret them having opened this door.

it's what teams do to us immediately after we concuss their QB. hell... Buck did it.

i hate this ruling. the judge found the TiCats letter notifying Williams that they were exercising their right (as expressed in his bleeping contract!) to his option year insufficiant... what in the tapdancing **** were they supposed to do that would be sufficiant? send him an invitation engraved on a silver plate written in gothic caligraphy in iambic pentameter? bullbleep.

okay, okay fine. i'll be on your board. just stop pestering me.

Yeah bluto this season for the WBB reminds me a lot of the Andrus year the Argos had to endure. Same kind of situation, no QB, a coach who just looked lost all year, only hope is for next year when the team can clear the decks, bring in some better coaching talent and rebuild. the comparison had occurred to me as well. we had The Don come in and fire everybody you guys have Miller.

these final games for the Bombers ought to be a ruthless evaluation of personnel. their talent, their upside, if they're in decline, if they are good value for their contract, if they hustle from whistle to whistle, if they are "team" guys or "me" guys... one thing that puts a wrench in the works is that Burke is almost assuredly not going to be the HC moving forward, so some players just won't give him their level best (or won't have their ability properly showcased in a poor system). it sucks when your team is in a place where the outcome of a particular game means less than looking ahead to next season's roster (trust me, i've been there a few times) but i view this interregnum period with Miller at the helm as a big positive for the Bombers and the potential is there for a 1 year turnaround..

could be chaos for lots/most/all teams between the Dispersal draft and the new CBA and SMS

true... you always bravely and boldly go against the grain... you never ever piled on with the blinkered-masses during the 4 years of rampant Mack-love...

The funniest part to me is that he once again failed to get the QB he was after. Coffee is for closers, and Mack didn't close when it really mattered. Joe Mack is the Shelley Levene of general managers.... that's so perfect a description that i'd swear i'd heard that same sentiment being expressed 2 years ago...

why do you care who your QB is in 5 years when you ought to be trying to win a Grey Cup next year?? Because this team isn't good enough to win a GC next year, and (if there is a God) will be adjusting to new coaches and schemes. Why take on Ray's contract and the limitations it'll put on the rest of our roster; if we're more than Ray away from being a GC contender? I'm not saying Collaros is a better QB than Ray... I'm saying Collaros makes more sense for a rebuilding team that needs more than just a QB. >implying that teams haven't turned around from **** to win the GC in recent years >implying that teams with new HCs and systems haven't won GCs in recent years >implying that teams with big contracts at QB haven't won GCs in recent years

did you get the memo? yeah... i'm just going to go ahead and send it to you again...

sounds like someone's got a case of the Mondays...

why do you care who your QB is in 5 years when you ought to be trying to win a Grey Cup next year??

You don't think Hammie is fine with Burris and LeFevour? Burris is an UFA and i think Austin will take the opportunity to start over with someone younger. Collaros is only a five hour drive from home in Hamilton too.

seeing as Ottawa, Hamilton and Montreal will likely be the other teams in for ZC, i'd obviously prefer him to go west...

I don't disagree with you Bluto .... but Ray is what 35? At SOME point you have to consider it, especially if you think you have a young, viable option on hand. Look at Montreal. They kept Calvillo for too long imo. he's 33 (going on 34). if you don't think that his play level and style (and the fact that he was the least sacked QB in the league before a weirdo injury) suggest that he has a minimum 3 good years left then i don't know what to tell you. I guess as long as there is a good backup. Harris is a free agent is he not? Likely #2 and #3 will be gone with at least 3 teams heavily hunting QB's in the off-season. If Ray misses half of next season, then what? Harris is a free agent too... more of a pocket style passer a la Ray. but if i'm honest, i think that Portis will be our next Collaros-type story to emerge.

i keep shaking my head whenever i see someone suggest that Ray won't be our QB next season...

actually, i think they should. Tate and Hall backing up Collaros (who you should make a big money offer to) would take you from the worst QB situation to one of the better ones. having a designated QB coach with those three should go without saying... A nice thought but just not realistic from a financial standpoint to pay both Collaros and Tate. I agree though that Max Hall would make an ideal backup to either of those 2 as your starter. like i said above... under the new SMS, i bet you could easily have both. FFS, we pay Ray $400k... and have 4 other QBs besides!

actually, i think they should. Tate and Hall backing up Collaros (who you should make a big money offer to) would take you from the worst QB situation to one of the better ones. having a designated QB coach with those three should go without saying... Tate is signed to starters money already though, isn't he? Not sure the Bombers could afford to make the offer to Collaros if they traded for Tate. I'd rather have Collaros then live through Buck 2.0. marginal starters money really... and the SMS is going up, so it ought not matter. and i'm still unsure that Tate is Pierce 2.0... i think that the kid has been unlucky and will come good.... but having him behind a guy like Collaros and studying with a good OC and QBC would be ideal (like he has in Huf and Dave ****... QBs make good QB mentors)

actually, i think they should. Tate and Hall backing up Collaros (who you should make a big money offer to) would take you from the worst QB situation to one of the better ones. having a designated QB coach with those three should go without saying...

Strike 2....... good for them though. if they aren't asking, then they aren't doing their job.

But at least we could say we tried. In throwing that ball you have a percentage whatever that is with Goltz, taking a knee you have zero. I would even venture to say going for it gave us a better chance than hoping we could beat them in overtime. We had scored 7 points in three quarters. I know, it's easy to be a Saturday morning coach. What gets me is they still had a timeout as well. If Burke just planned intelligently, they start at their 35 with 24 seconds left. Then they'd need what, 30 yards in 24 seconds to have a shot at a single? 40 yards to give it a shot at a field goal? With a timeout remaining, you have at least one play call where the whole field is at your disposal. You can't be assuming as a head coach that your QB is going to throw an interception or fumble the ball. If that's the best assumption you can make about him, don't even put him out there in the first place. Use those 24 seconds to stretch the field, it's enough to get 3 plays off especially with that timeout in your back pocket. At least TRY. No one is going to be mad at you if you try and fail, we're already all aware that our team blows. But not even trying just makes you an absolute coward. i was watching the game from a BWW in the 'burbs last night. i was very deep into my pints (as were the crew i was with) but we were stunned when they took a knee. the game's audio wasn't on so we were actually postulating that TSN's game clock might not have been properly sync'd with the actual one... because there was no bleeping way that a coach doesn't try to get 30 yards and atempt to boot a single... especially at home! Burke will be gone right soon. i doubt Miller would blink if Walters asked to chop him. unless there's a monetary reason to keep him (guaranteed money to yet another fired coach/GM).