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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Obvious syllogism between using accusations as leverage in lawsuits is obvious. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Like I said, there are a lot of men on the CFL internet right now who have never had a friend or loved one go through an acrimonious divorce, and it shows. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I'm not dismissing it. Really. Just presenting the other side of the coin while people gather up their torches and pitchforks. I have no trouble at all believing that a pro athlete hit on a coworker and crossed a boundary. Especially in this day and age where boundaries for that are basically set at zero-tolerance by default (which I have no beef with). And yeah, we know that he's a loon. But he's now been painted as a sexual harasser in national media. That's a different sort of reputational hit. And if it was because he asked a girl out at work, that's pretty harsh. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Too late for that now, my dude. And if the "investigation" yields no basis for the allegation, how does Kelly and the Argos get their reputation restored? Do they get to sue the Accuser? will they face civil or criminal charges? We know that they won't. It's a free hit as part of a civil wrongful dismissal case designed to produce a nice, easy settlement. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That was the first video I've watched today. I had to search for highlight reels of good plays before I felt sufficiently "up" so that I could leave the house. There's no way I'm starting my day like that. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
And yet, look how his final game turned out for him. What a way to sign off. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Kelly has been conspicuous for his hard work and charitable hours and for the record, I don't recall ever scoffing... but then I don't ever recall attesting to any particular player's sainthood either. I don't think I'm likely to taste any crow here based on a $50k add-on to a wrongful dismissal suit. But you never know. Like I said earlier, ask Shawn Oakman about this stuff. Or, as I trust that most people around here are men of middle age or more, I find it difficult to believe that nobody here has an acquaintance who went through an acrimonious divorce where allegations were made. These things happen in lawsuits. They are common leveraging tools. And the tell is that usually the civil suit is filed and no criminal one is. Because if there's a criminal suit, it always makes the civil one a tap-in. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Big job ahead: Find the next Stiggers/Peters/Hendrix/Barlow/Pickett... -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Ask Shawn Oakman what that's like. Didn't see that signing coming. Thought that we may have brought Cam Phillips back. Bailey will look good with Daniels, Coxie, Brissett & Nield. (and with 21 DBs under contract according to our roster page, I guess I'll give up hope on re-signing Robertson Daniel now) -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Particularly because this isn't a criminal matter... -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Nobody was fired. A contract wasn't renewed. I know that's hair-splitting, but it is relevant. And if it was only because of the alleged harassment and the Accuser can prove that, then they would win in court. But as I suspect that actually proving that would be a monumental hill to climb in a court room, her counsel went for plan B. Trial by media. Still think that they could have gotten the full amount they are currently asking for had they just asked. There is a 0% chance that MLSE/Argos legal department would have not taken this very seriously and seized the chance to pay the asking price. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Right?? Given the opportunity they almost certainly would have considering the small size of the suit. $140k is a speeding ticket to MLSE. Makes me wonder if it was ever a consideration or if airing it out in the press was just always going to be the move by the Accuser's legal team. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Where do you imagine, in a Wrongful Dismissal suit that anybody will be "found guilty"? -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I'd thought that too. Which is why it's a bit peculiar that the "damages" the Accuser seeks is $85k from the Argos and $50k from Kelly. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
If it comes out that they attempted to have a settlement (or even went to the effort of having a meeting about the possible suit) prior to phoning up Bell Media, then I happily retract my statement. But if you think that the MLSE/Argos were offered an opportunity to rug-sweep this for the $85k "damages" as well as $50 more personally from Kelly that the Accuser claims they suffered and that they would turn it down, you're nuts. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Since you asked, yeah I think that since this is over $85k FFS, perhaps having a sitdown with the club and holding the big stick of a trial-by-media may have done away with this. They are an Accuser. Learn the difference. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Interesting take. Would it be harassing the Accuser if the club has a pile of performance reviews where they were graded as below standard? Had chronic lateness or absences? Had complaints from coworkers and players? If emails, texts and video exist of the Accuser being inappropriate with coworkers? Nice for the Accuser to have their legal team lob this grenade with no accountability, before the season begins so that the club will need it dealt with quickly. And it doesn't hurt that the club had to cut a hush-hush settlement cheque once before. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
What victim though? We have someone who filed a Wrongful Dismissal suit and added a Harassment charge to it. If there's a claim of actual victimhood, the Toronto Police Services should be notified. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Excuse me, serious question: what victim? And who said that they ought to be shamed? This is a wrongful termination suit with a side of a sensationalized accusation to whip the press (and apparently internet forums) into a frenzy before evidence and judgement. And why would the accused be named and subjected to trial by press except for the purpose of shaming them into accepting a settlement (much as was done once before against the Argos)? This serves the accuser's legal strategy just fine, as was always the intent. Give me a bit of credit for being a decent human please. And your comment about the side of truth is just so offside here. And support what victim? And this is why trial by media for a wrongful termination suit is ideal for the accuser. Yahtzee. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Just saying: It's messed up how they can name Kelly but not the accuser. -
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2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I'd say that the Leos did well on that one. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I'd guess he's joining Zach and the Chad in the 600 Club. -
2023/2024 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season News
bluto replied to Noeller's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Perhaps not the most mature post that your team's leader could make.