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12 minutes ago, Mike said:
Blows my mind that I read today Juran Bolden led our team in interceptions 21 years ago. 1995.
Was it that long ago? I remember how excited I was when he came back after his NFL stint. Same with Maurice Kelly, I loved that guy.
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In the attempt to lighten things up a bit, I have lifted this idea from Deadspin but I always found those posts interesting. Let's remember some also-rans from years gone by. Here is my starter:
Rahpaol Ball
Wane McGarity
Inoke Breckterfield
Sefa O'Reilly
Geoff Drover
Ladaris Vann
Deonce Whitaker
Orlando Bobo
Tee Martin
Russ Michna
Ron Ockimey
Vinnie Sutherland
Kwame Cavil
Quentin McCord
Mike Quinn
Ron Warner
Andrae Thurman
O’Neil Wilson
Jerome Haywood
Cam Hall
Robert Bean
Chijoke Onyenegecha
Greg Bearman
Stanford Samuels
Willie Amos
Yvenson Bernard
Otis Amey
Dudley Guice Jr.
Dorian Smith
Lenny Walls
Keyuo Craver
Jerry-Ralph Jules
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2 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Count me in the same boat as Mike. I've gone to similar lengths in my life. I used to watch "Fever Pitch" with potential girlfriends just to kind of explain things a little bit and say "listen, if you're not in at this level...it's not going to work". Luckily, I've found someone who gets it and is on board.
I think most would agree I'm one of the most positive on this board...one of the last to ever criticize the team or jump on any one player or coach. But I'm just done right now...emotionally exhausted. I can't keep watching all the losing. I'm an Oilers fan and a Bombers fan....it's just too much, year in and year out. I'm coming home in a week and we'd planned on coming in from Victoria Beach (where we spend most of our holidays) to go to the game on the Wednesday night vs Hamilton, but now I'm questioning whether I want to make the drive, buy tickets, etc.....I think maybe I'll just watch it on tv at the cabin, so I can shut it off, if it's a **** show.
I don't know what the problem is, or how you fix it, but something has to be done to fix the core of the problem....when even the most diehard among us are giving up....that's a really serious problem.
That's the big issue facing the club right now. Fairweather fans will come and go, but once you start losing the diehards it's awfully tough to rebound from. With a brand new stadium built this was a glorious opportunity to usher in a new era of Bomber football and create the next generation of diehard Bomber fans (like my sons) but it has fallen flat on it's face out of the gate.
We as fans have put up with an awful lot of mismanagement and poor product over the recent years and it's unfair to expect my boys to put up with the same garbage. My son left the game yesterday with his fandom intact but I fear that the perpetual losing of this club will wane his interest with all the options kids have these days to spend their time. I wax nostalgic to him of all the fun I had as a kid driving in from an hour south of the city, listening to Knuckles with my family on the pre and post game show. Watching Blink, Khari, Milt, Mike Sellers etc. put up points at ease and Doug Brown plugging the middle up preventing these backbreaking 20 yard runs we have seen far too often lately.
What does his generation have to boast about so far?
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1 minute ago, Mike said:
Willy has been telegraphing every single thing he does almost all season.
He telegraphs his hand offs, he basically stares down Dressler every time he throws that screen pass ... he's so broken it's not even funny.
Not just the screens, but the slants as well. That challenged PI slant on 2nd down was so obvious that he had one guy in mind and it was Dressler the whole way. There was another pass to Harris out of the backfield in the 2nd half on 2nd down and medium that he didn't even try to push the ball downfield at all, he just gave it to Harris a yard off the LOS and expected him to get the rest.
Nichols if nothing else showed that he would try to throw the ball past the sticks.
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5 minutes ago, Mike said:
Cuz they're hungry to play and our starters are just walking around defeated.
One thing that caught my eye. Darvin Adams - who is an easy example, because he's probably got the most obvious body language of any player on our team - walked around looking pissed off all game until Nichols came in. Hit Adams with a 10 yard catch. Adams gets pumped up. Because there was some hope.
I think it was Tyron Brackenridge that tweeted during the game about the D just playing like they were just showing up to get paid. Pretty apt observation based on what we have seen thus far. Jones, Loffler, Morgan etc. all had the energy and desire to make plays as opposed to letting the play come to them.
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1 minute ago, Mike said:
He didn't even make it to main camp, he was at rookie camp where Jace Davis wasn't even present.
... how the **** does Kevin Cone make it to training camp over a guy like Ricky Collins. Seriously. If that's PURE talent analysis, that's embarrassing.
Cone, Talley, Kris Adams the list of also ran WR's goes on. Explosive import WR's enter the league every year and the last one to make an impact in Winnipeg was Chris Matthews. Like you said Mike, how much of this is talent evaluation at the scouting level and how much of it lies at the feet of O'Shea and the team persona he wants to develop?
I am a St.Louis Rams (now LA) fan as well and when Steve Spagnuolo was the HC his philosophy was a "4 pillars" approach that valued choir boys above good football players and we all know how that turned out. I'm not saying you need a team full of Greg Hardy and Ray Rice types, far from it, but that doesn't mean that if he doesn't hold the door open for your mom he isn't worth a spot on the roster.
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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:
but what about the D getting absolutely abused in the first half? They were awful from the get go.
Isn't it depressing that the "starters" got carved and the raw CDN rookies were the ones flying to the ball making plays?
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3 minutes ago, White Out said:
I think your tone deafness with regards to my posts is so bad it has to be purposeful. Canning a GM takes years to build a proper case. Cutting a 400k anchor off your roster and moving on from a bad player takes a day. Just the same that I was years ahead of the anti Pavelec movement I'm having the same arguments with people over Willy. I focus on Willy because at the moment he's over paid, under performing, and the face of this team. Would I send all 3 guys out of Winnipeg this morning if I could? Your god damn right I would. But discussing a GM mid season is pointless.
I'm torn on this. Firing MOS would end the season, no doubt. It's still really early and teams that change coaches in season have a hideous track record of turning it around. However, there is no evidence to support the theory that MOS can turn it around and he isn't going to start experimenting with rookies like Davis and Bennett because he knows his job is on the line each week so we basically put off the rebuild until next year when the new regime comes in and when we start 0-5 says they need time to evaluate. Rinse/repeat.
So if i had to pick, if the product for the rest of the season at all resembles what we have seen so far? Blow it up now and have an extended TC for the next 14 weeks because it can't be any worse than what we are watching now.
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37 minutes ago, Mike said:
I'm done with going to Bomber games.
I'm not done watching the team. I'm done making the 40 minute drive and 20 minute walk to the stadium to subject myself to the product that we're being given. I'm still going to watch religiously every single game, but I want the ability to turn this garbage off with the push of a button instead of having to travel another hour back home.
We absolutely ****ing suck. I'm sure it's a combination of things and I'm sure the blame isn't on any singular person, but this team just lacks any entertainment value whatsoever. I'm 26 years old now, I've had season tickets since 1999, when I was 9 years old and I used to have so much team spirit that I would save up birthday and Christmas money to buy my own so I could go with my dad. I didn't want my parents to buy my tickets, because I wanted to support the team myself. Sure, it was all their money anyways but that was the pride I had in being a Bomber fan, I thought at 9 years old that I could proudly support them MYSELF.
I never used to miss a game for anything. I've missed birthdays. Weddings. Parties. I've gotten in fights with girlfriends because I wanted to watch a Bomber game on TV instead of going out to a BBQ or some kind of other social function. I missed half of my high school graduation to listen to preseason football on the radio. I've driven to Calgary, Edmonton and Regina to watch games, despite it taking all the way until last year to ever see a road win. Two years ago, I went to Los Angeles during Bomber season and they were playing Hamilton (the game where McDuffie returned a TD on us) and I missed watching half of a Dodger game because I stayed in their team store until the end of the Bomber game because that was the only place in the stadium I could get consistent wifi. There are literally no ends to what I've done to expose myself to as much Bomber football as I possibly can and I really just don't give a **** anymore.
I'm tired of Mike O'Shea and his "I don't know what's going on" attitude. His post game interview last night was depressing and apparently his halftime interview with Sara Orlesky was even worse. I'm tired of no answers for anything. I'm tired of trying the same **** over and over again and expecting it to worth the 17th time when it didn't work the first 16. I'm tired of watching teams run the same plays we do for 15, 20, 30 yards when we can barely run them for 2. We've seen 7 wins in 30 tries at Investors Group Field and it's ****ing pathetic. If it's not the QB, it's the defense. If it's not the defense, it's the playcalling. If it's not the playcalling, the kicker misses. If the kicker doesn't miss, it's the QB. Whatever it is, we never put it together and I'm just so defeated watching this unentertaining product. Even 5-6 years ago, we weren't very good but we could see progress. Now? Nothing. I was talking with my dad at the last game and we were trying to recall all the good memories we've had of watching the team play at IGF. My fondest ****ing memory is the game where Jason Boltus somehow managed to throw a pass backwards and I laughed at how pathetic we were. That's the only positive memory I have of IGF. Some "so bad it's funny" bull**** that only the Bombers could pull off. That's not how I want to remember Bomber football. At Canad Inns? I remember the TD record. I remember Khari Jones instilling confidence in a fanbase that knew even if we were down going into the fourth quarter, we sure as **** had a chance to win - a good chance. I remember the Stegall 4 catch, 4 TD game. I remember the Thanksgiving comeback. I remember Swaggerville coming up into Section S to celebrate with the fans after a Eastern Final win against Hamilton when Chris Garrett ran over, around and by everything near him in the snow. Remember watching football in the snow? Not at IGF, because our lockers are cleaned out by then.
Remember when we fired Doug Berry because making the playoffs 3 years in a row but not winning a Grey Cup was unacceptable? Can you imagine making the playoffs 3 years in a row now? I'd kill for it. I can't remember the last time I actually had to pay for my playoff ticket because it's been carried over from the previous year for what? I dunno, 5 years now? Another 5 before that? Who even knows at this point. All I know is I can't subject myself to this garbage anymore. I just laugh. What else am I supposed to do? Getting mad doesn't do anything. It's not worth investing the effort. The team sure doesn't. All I know is I've gone from a fan who would've missed my mom's birthday to listen to a Bomber radio broadcast through a broken walkie talkie to a fan who literally would rather stay at home so he can go pull weeds after we get run outta the building in the first quarter. We ****ing stink. And I can't be bothered to care anymore.
I couldn't agree more with this. I am in the same age range as you and have grown up watching this team mired in mediocrity (save for a few one-off seasons). The worst thing to happen to this team is not the anger or rage from the fanbase, it's apathy and that's about where I'm at.
My summers used to be planned around the Bomber schedule but now unless I am afforded free tickets through work or otherwise, I'll watch it at home so I can curse at the TV and go do something else. Growing up as a fan of a punchline of a franchise is taxing and stressful and I completely understand when fans decide to pull the chute. The biggest concern of Wade Miller and the BOD going forward has to be the disenfranchising of the fans. I was an ardent supporter of MOS when he was hired and even up until kickoff yesterday I was of the mindset that he could fix this and be a great coach for us going forward but that support has been tempered and practically extinguished. Kicking a meaningless FG in the red zone when you need 2 majors and the offense has been stagnant all game reeks of a coach who would rather make the score look respectable than take the chances necessary to win.
I'm basically at a loss for words on how this season has turned out so far based on the supposedly productive offseason, except for the prevailing fact that as a Bomber fan who grew up watching this team underachieve year after year I am resigned to the fact that this outcome isn't surprising at all, and should be expected.
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1 hour ago, Jpan85 said:
Changed my spread sheet so everyone is back to last weeks totals
Awesome, a mulligan on my first shot!
Jerome Messam
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I think ultimately this game is going to come down to both teams secondary. Whoever steps up there will win, so many new faces on both sides.
Willy and Reilly both go over 300 today, but I'm predicting a big game from Andrew Harris and a Bomber win 33-27.
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13 minutes ago, johnzo said:
Montreal down Glenn, S.J. Green, Carter, Stafford, and Sutton. Huge adversity, be interesting to see how they come out but I bet they're gonna look pre-season bad.
I've got Montreal in the pick-ems but that was when I thought it was Glenn playing, wish I could change it.
Me too. Wish we had this version of the Als in town on opening day.
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5 hours ago, tracker said:
Isn't he the guy who makes suits?
Ugh, I can just envision the Rod Black game call
"And a sweep to Edwards - IT'S A TOUCHDOWN!!!!!1!!1!!1! The Armanti Exchange with Durant is successful!*
* Repeats multiple times throughout game, often on incomplete passes/plays he isn't involved in.
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1 hour ago, Floyd said:
Our teams blocking has been pretty good actually...
It's been a pleasant surprise on the lack of holding/blocking in the back calls on the return teams thus far. With how explosive McDuffie has been it's only a matter of time until he breaks one.
I hope Fogg has some experience in the return game, we can't have any unforced errors on ST costing us field position and turnovers.
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Whether he goes this week or not, it's a positive sign that they have activated Adams. I would be surprised to see him play, especially with him not practicing yet this week.
Slowly getting back to normalcy in the secondary. For all of the concerns about the unit (and they are legit), having an all-star back in the lineup is no small addition.
Somewhat surprising it's Sheppard coming on the roster and not Flanders to return kicks.
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1 hour ago, Floyd said:
Back to an all import secondary...
Randle-Fogg-Harris-Posey-CJ Roberts
So weird how DB seems to have gone from a position of strength to a big question mark.
It`s tough to gauge the true ability of the unit until Johnny Adams is back and Bruce Johnson is healthy. Johnson had a rough first two weeks so we need to see if he can bounce back or if he continues to be the weak link in the secondary.
I don`t mind having a Randle-Johnson-Harris-Posey-Adams secondary to see what we really have there. Like you and others have said, the typical cushion/bend don`t break Richie Hall defense also can factor into the perception of how our secondary is playing.
However, if BJ continues to struggle and Adams takes a few weeks to get caught up we could be in real trouble. (Unless CJ Roberts is a diamond in the rough)
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Darvin Adams.
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22 hours ago, Noeller said:
I get that you're on the payroll over there on Pembina, and that's cool...I'd be totally on board, too. I can imagine the "Us Against Them" mentality and it'd be a real driver. As someone who "gets it" and someone who's also a fan listening from afar, it's just not even a comparable broadcast. Bob + Ed Tait + Doug Brown = CFL Radio Broadcast Perfection. It's everything TSN should be striving for, and I have no doubt they are! Bob's going to retire as soon as this contract is up, and then TSN will buy the rights and try to find someone to take over PBP (I honestly don't believe anyone in town currently that is able to take over right now) and it'll suck for a couple years, but they'll eventually get it...time moves on and people will come to enjoy *that* broadcast, as a whole new generation makes it theirs.
In a perfect world, Knuckles will go on a Vin Scully-esque run. But as many others have pointed out once CJOB's current contract runs out it seems like a no brainer to move over to TSN, especially given the TV contract I would imagine they can use that as leverage in radio rights negotiations. I don't envy whoever fills the PBP chair there though, there will be a lot of vitriol for the first few years.
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We need to contain Reilly or it's going to be a long night. I would imagine Edmonton running a lot of zone-reads to keep our DE's honest.
Willy needs that medium to deep accuracy so we can test the new unproven DB's. We have the horses to go vertical, time for Willy to start hitting them (in stride hopefully!)
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Can't disagree at all with what DoD has outlined. A few of my own observations:
- What did we as a fanbase do to be stuck with Rod Black for virtually every game? His determination to pen nicknames for players and/or regurgitate the same nickname over and over is infuriating. As a broadcaster he is often out to lunch on his calls ("No one's gonna catch him....or will they? Yes!") and assumptions.
- Proulx et al were awful tonight. Both teams had calls go the wrong way but man the pace really slowed down in the second half with the flags.
- That bullrush from Hubbard at the end was fun to watch. The book on him was he takes certain plays off, but seeing as Green is a ghost out there what's the harm in giving him an extended look?
- Fogg and Hawkins seemed to be trailing often. We could use an upgrade at HB, even when Johnson was in we were lacking there and I am a Bruce Johnson fan.
- I hated Lapo's offense when he was HC/OC last time, thought he checked down way too much. After Bellefueille, it's a refreshing change. Let's hope that Willy can find some intermediate/deep accuracy to go along with the short stuff.
- We did a great job of keeping Simoni Lawrence from being a factor. Didn't see much of him last night, good scheming/blocking by the offense.
- Mobile QB's always seem to give us trouble, let's hope we have a game plan for Reilly next week!
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1 minute ago, Logan007 said:
I'm right there with you. When they were inside the 10 I was yelling at the screen for them to just give the ball to Harris a couple of times and just smash it in. Screw throwing it. Pound that fucker in there as hard as you can!
...oh get your minds out of the gutter.
I'm not so much against the quick slants that use inside leverage as an advantage but lateral across the LOS with that many defenders in the vicinity just seems destined to fail. Misdirection near the goal line is great and all, i just don't think it's being utilized properly here.
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2 hours ago, Noeller said:
all done by mine and 17to85's Brandon U buddy....Coorsman Chad.....one of the biggest Bombers fans you'll ever meet, and also a nerd with way too much time on his hands to put this **** together...
Wasn't Coorsman the one who would torrent all the games as well back in the day?
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17 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Did not understand the goal line sweep to Ryan Smith call... reminded me of 2011 when we'd do absolutely everything in the red zone except give the ball to Reid.
My thoughts were when we signed Harris that it was a given anything inside the 10 on first down would be given to him. Maybe Lapo is overthinking it and assuming they are keying in on Harris on 1st and goal and hence the sweeps to Smith? I just don't think his skill set (speed in space) is best suited for a stacked box on the goal line as opposed to Harris.
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7 minutes ago, ddanger said:
I get so tired of sitting in the stands at the stadium listening to my fellow season ticket holders bitching and complaining all the way through games about our team. Same thing here, people are complaining and are very critical even when we win. Was it a game for the ages?? No it wasn't. But our team played significantly better than last week. They played with emotion, and they dominated. They were excited and it showed.
Agreed. The defense in particular was noticeably more energetic and were rallying to the ball carrier better than the last two weeks. Offensively, we were moving the sticks with more regularity also. Tackling was also miles better in my opinion.
Does Willy need to be more accurate? Yes.
Does he need to push the ball downfield more? Yes.
Do we need to have that killer instinct when we have a team on the ropes early in the 3rd quarter? Absolutely,
At the end of the day, had the roles been reversed there would be cries that "the score absolutely flattered the Bombers and we should have been blown out" etc. We have issues in our game that need to be addressed for sure, but in a game we needed to win we found a way to do it.
You know who I wish was on our team?
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Dave Donaldon sure knew how to take a vicious no yards penalty.