Dragon37
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Luck didn't win this game. they didn't luck their way into 48 points and luck their way to holding the riders to 28.
There is still work to be done but when is that not the case. I don't know a team that doesn't need to fix something.
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Who has been glossing over the fact that Winnipeg's defense needs to be better? No one. Hell I haven't been happy with our defense for a few years now. They need some pressure up front and have needed back end help for a while. I do think they have the players to do it BUT I don't think they have the schemes to get it done.
We are particularly weak over the middle because our LBs insist, for the most part on being up near the line and getting trapped in that mess rather than hang a few yards off both spying the RB and getting in the passing lanes. On the back end they back way the hell off and hope that their close speed and shoulder tackles are going to work.
As for our offense, they may not be glamorous but they have consistently put up lots of points. I, personally, don't freaking give two craps if they have to dip and dunk or blast it over the top to get the points or if it comes in threes or sixes as long as at the end of the day they have more point on the board than the opposition. The margin of the win might mean something to some fans out there but in the end, whether it is a blow out or a overtime win by a point a team gets two points.
Win or lose there is always something to fix.
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19 hours ago, WBBFanWest said:
Welcome to the internet. Wear a helmet.
Typical response from a keyboard coward. Feeling empowered "true fan"?
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42 minutes ago, szaroz71 said:
This is really a hard game to predict an outcome. Naturally Rider fans are going to say the Riders will win and Bomber fans are going to say The Bombers are going to win.. (for the most part anyways). Truthfully, I have no idea how this game will turn out, Bombers are hot, no doubt about it, and the team is playing with confidence. The Riders on the other hand, are what I believe to be a much improved team than what they were at the beginning of the season, and while not on a streak like the Bombers are, do have a couple of confidence building wins and hopefully take that onto the field Sunday. (just not over confident lol)
I think each team has certain advantages over the other.. you guys have a better qb in my opinion, and at this point of the season, I think our defense is playing a little better than yours. That being said, the guys in your secondary are pretty quick to the ball when it's thrown. Is home field an advantage for us? I would say probably, even though you guys took the first game from us at Mosiac. I'm pretty sure it will be loud and the noise will cause a few mistakes for Nichols. Might just come down to who want's it most lol. Regardless of the outcome, looks like it's going to be a good couple of weekends of spewing mud back and forth.
I agree with your comments.
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3 hours ago, WBBFanWest said:
It never ceases to amaze me when people who call themselves fans of the Bombers will predict a loss. Sure, a loss is possible every game, but personally, I go in expecting the Blue to win. Especially against the Riders. So to all of you saying "we're going to lose on Labour Day", shame, shame on all of you!
Well, in my years watching the Bombers in the LDC they have mostly lost the game. They have lost despite having some very good teams going play very bad Rider teams. As such, I can see why some Bomber fans will favour the riders going into the LDC. I most certainly will not judge their devotion to the team based on such calls. I think it is very unfortunate that you would attack other fans for having an opinion different from your own. It doesn't make for a very welcoming community.
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52 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
The only way I can see the bjb and ldc going is a split. We should sweep, but its LD.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a split, but I wouldn't be too surprised with a Bomber sweep. A blow out by either team in either game or a Sask sweep would be surprising to me. No offense to Sask on being surprised on the sweep bit but the way things have gone for both teams in the recent past doesn't lend me to think Sask sweep as I still think they have too many question marks going into the games and recent history between the teams would say that a sweep by either team is not very likely.
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2 minutes ago, Ripper said:
Which way do you want to play this to meet your narrative? You're defense has won games for you also. Your offense is the reason you have more wins? Truth is, and no one here will admit it, is the teams are almost identical.
Winnipeg offense is better and Sask D is better. It's that simple. There's the narrative. In a close game I like the Bombers chances.
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1 minute ago, Ripper said:
We blew that game in Montreal, hands down. Crapigna hurt us with that miss. That 2 points would be nice now. The upright hit in Regina sucked as well, but that wasn't a sure victory as the Bombers would have got ball again so we may still have lost. The ones with the clock at zero and the field goal for the win are the ones that really suck, kind of like your guy whenever you play the Lions.
They do indeed suck but they are part of the game so I wouldn't call those fluke wins. Fluke wins are truly pulling out a game on an improbable play or a dubious call. Winnipeg has won close games closer games than should have been but they still pulled them out by working hard. No doubt about it either that Sask deserves full points for their last two wins. If anyone steps back and takes a hard look they should be able to see that Sask is not a bad team but they are not yet "on the porch" as they like to say on TSN. Teams cannot take them lightly or they get what BC got. At the same time Saskatchewan fans have to admit that the Bombers are a better team at this point. Not as good as say Calgary, they indeed have point they need to work on such as the secondary but they have earned their wins and not by fluke.
It should be a good game, at least on paper, but this is Labour Day and history has shown that no matter how good Winnipeg is going into this game it is a serious dogfight that they more often have lost. No matter how good or bad Sask is, or for that matter any team is, you must respect them, because if you don't you lose. Its that simple. I think though Saskatchewan too, does have to respect this version of the Bombers because since Nichols took over and we tweaked the o-line they have become a much better team. Just because Sask rolled tow strong teams doesn't mean they will do the same without good preparation.
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1 minute ago, Ripper said:
Might want to look at the stats a bit closer. Bombers have 191 more passing yards for the season than the riders, in one more game played. Bombers have 12 turnovers on offense, 2 more than the riders. Riders have more td passes. You have a 57 pt edge in points scored, in one extra game. Riders have edge in possession time, but its so close its basically a wash. Bombers have a 373 yard edge running the ball and more rushing tds. I would hardly say the stats show the Bomber offense substantially better than ours. Your Oline is 3rd worst for sacks allowed, a concerning stat going into this week. With the Lions not playing you can look to be 2nd worst or worst after the weekend. Only edge you have on us is running the ball. We are not planning on letting you do that so that will be the game story going in. I guess in conclusion, any of you satisfied or happy with your offensive numbers are hypocrites to not see the Riders nearly equal in every category.
Nearly, but not quite and as such you have failed to amass more than four wins.
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53 minutes ago, Ripper said:
This may be over your head, but maybe they played bad because they were running for their lives most of the game.
Your defense won the day the offense didn't.
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22 hours ago, Ripper said:
Lets look at the big winning streak. Lucky wins against a bad montreal team. winless Ottawa, pulled that one out of the fire. Beat Hamilton, who hasn't. Beat the same practice squad eskimo's, in your stadium with a way worse roster than the one we pounded in their stadium last night. Respect is what you will get when you beat the western teams.
A bad Montreal team which you failed to beat because your team could kick the ball between the uprights when you needed it. Oh and they kept your self vaunted offense to what 16 points?
An interception is no fluke Durant made a mistake and Winnipeg made him pay. Not any different that Johnson or What-his-names pick sixes this week for Sask.
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22 hours ago, Ripper said:
Fluking out wins is what you have been doing. Our wins have been a bit more decisive.
Let's see. Sask hits upright, Bombers don't. Win bombers.
Winnipeg down 12 to Montreal drive the field score a TD. Kick the convert. Recover the onside. Drive the field score on a one yard plunge. Bombers win.
Ottawa ties game. Bombers drive field kick a last second FG Bombers win.
Montreal Ties game. Both score in first OT. Bomber pick off Durant pass. Kick FG to win.
Bomber roll Hamilton and Roll TO and Rolled Edmonton. The scores may have been tighter but they were in control of those three games. They have only not scored 30 or more points once this year and most of their points have come from the offense, not the defense. Four straight games they have led whistle to whistle. So they may have had five tight game but they have not "fluked" any of those wins they put up point when they needed to and there is nothing fluke about that.
Saskatchewan most definitely has a very good defense but their O has not quite been a sparkler. While our D is not as good, our O is putting up good numbers. Winnipeg plays a much more controlled offense and is not as susceptible to turnovers as BC and Edmonton are so I don't think your team is going to be doing any rolling over the opponent this week. This is Labour Day though so I am not going to predict a WInnipeg win but I know that they can can win and in a close game I like their odds. They have only lost one of five close games while Saskatchewan has not been able to pull out a win in a close game yet.
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Never bothered with the whole thread. Nichols is a good QB and I couldn't care less if people class him elite or not. He has been a big part of this team winning since he was handed the job. Just as he did with Edmonton before his terrible injury. That team was pedestrian without him. To me he has the patience and smarts of Mitchell and the drive of Reilly. Like Mitchell, Nichols has won more than he has lost (including the time with Edmonton). Indeed winning is a team effort and Nichols has been a big part of this team's turnaround in the last year.
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The defence is simply not good enough and our ball protection needs to be better.
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I totally agree with MC. I would go further and say that the "problem" isn't the skill of the officials on the field it is the millions of judges off the field who have better angles and the ability to slow a play down that is the problem. There have been all sorts of changes for the wrong reasons and it is now catching up with us. Rules need only be changed if they are no longer functioning properly. Now the rule changes have slanted the deck heavily in favor of the offense and dramatically forced the defense to up their skill level. Offensively you can get away with anything now.
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The secondary was massively better too. Though Randle still needs to learn not to try and shoulder tackle people.
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8 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:
What a clown. I'm sure he'll be reprimanded accordingly in-house. Trestman won't stand for such childish behaviour.
Um, Montreal was pretty chippy when he was in charge there. They haven't been as bad since Trestman departed. TO was pretty amped up last night , including Trestman who was barking at the officials, and getting away with it, for much of the second half. So no I don't see Trestman reprimanding anyone.
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We park in the blue lot by that cool gray building with the big blue panoramic window. Getting out is waaaaay faster. The no right turn off ChancellorMatheson is no issue at all as I just take Waverly to McGillivary to Pembina to my Dads house on Jessie. Even though the game started half hour later than Thursday games last year, I have to drive farther to get my Dad home and back through the city to get back to #1 I got back to Portage la Prairie a full hour earlier than normal. So yes my driving experience is massively, massively better.
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He's been adequate. He hasn't messed with the people in charge of the on field product the way Lyle did. While Bauer did the books good he seriously harmed the on field product by getting involved in all ways.
Hopefully the on field product is as good as it was in the last 13 weeks of last season. Only that will put butts in the seats. There is nothing else Wade can do outside of that.
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The NFL still exists?
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Bloody Thursday games >:(
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Great news! Probably the best news I got today.
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I think all three were only taken out of use in the last ten years.
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I am about the only one who doesn't mind the PI/contacting enforcement. Now enforce holding. I enjoy good defence to.
Scrap reviews altogether. Reffing is done by humans and humans make mistakes. At speed and at field level you simply cannot catch every penalty.
I would also like to see more protection for all players and not just the QB. I saw a lot of head shots and shots blow the knees (not tripping/shoestring tackles) this year that just makes me cringe. Dessler first went out on a vicious head shot this year.
There is no problem with how no yards was called this year or any other year. Yeah they missed some but that happens. I surely do not want to see that sissy fair catch rule here. One of the many things about the NFL that makes it so .... Sleep inducing.
The points awarded on a safety are just fine.
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The designs of the two stadiums does indeed help. Our stadium is a tighter footprint putting the fans closer to the field of play and the having the ends closed in just a bit more aides as well. Mosaic is a bit more open with a lower seating angle wider sidelines and, therefore, creating more open space. I do believe that if Mosaic had a tighter design bring the fans in closer and enclosing the one end of the stadium more it would have been as loud. We can all try and dispel that design of the stadiums doesn't play a role but I think that just wouldn't be accurate. In theory Edmonton and BC should have the loudest fans as they can put more fans in their stadiums.