Eternal optimist

Alright I'm out of ammo... agree to disagree I guess, this is pointless.

Alright that's fair... but he also has 2 fumbles (which WPG recovered). I'm just saying he's a bit over-hyped on the boards here. I've never seen a team sitting 6-2 calling for a starting QB change. Although the offense hasn't been stellar, even back in 2011 when they were 7-1, nobody was calling for Pierce's (or LaPo's) head.

I meant given the sample size. Of course Nichols would have more turnovers, he's made ~230 pass attempts to Strevelers 13. If you were to gross up Streveler's current stats (Nichols has 17 times more passing attempts than Streveler) his numbers are gaudy: 153/221, 1,394 yards, 17 TDs,34 INTs. Of course this is based off his current small sample size, and by no means is this extrapolation perfect... feel free to provide a better argument than "Streveler because he's just better".

I'm just saying, with significantly less playtime he's turned the ball over more. That stat line doesn't include any turnovers on downs (like the one against CAL, I think he had one against OTT too?)

Stats after week 9 Nichols: (161/228) 70.6% - 1,757 yards, 14 TDs, 4 INTs Streveler: (9/13) 69.2% 82 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs I still think Nichols is our starter for the foreseeable future.

Sure... there will definitely be some cases where coaches may burn a challenge to calm things down. You can almost always find a holding or illegal block on most kick return plays... personally, I think it'd be best if they did it for a specific player, similar to how pass interference is called. I just find it interesting that even the rule book itself is stacked against coverage teams like that, puts them at a big disadvantage when there is a missed call.

The issue is that the scoring play is reviewable, but a coach can only challenge for illegal block penalties if they're called. Teams receiving the ball have an inherent advantage, since receiving coaches can challenge a phantom illegal block penalty (to have it removed), but the kicking team can't challenge for a missed illegal block penalty that should've been called.

That's a big missed PAT. Keeps it a one score game.

Ugh... got my years wrong. It's not often I mix things like that up, but I'll admit when I'm at fault here.. sorry for the misinformation.

...just the tone from the forum. Also, this thread?

My issue isn't with the suggestions, it's the fact that regardless of how good (or bad) a coordinator will eventually be, the first few years there is always some learning and growing pains: Dickenson's first year as OC was 2011, when they finished 3rd in the West (11-7), this was a regression from 13-5 the previous year. Maas's first year (2015), the Redblacks went 2-16. Although we'll eventually have to move on from LaPo, in the middle of the year isn't the time to do it, and certainly not with the team sitting at 6-2. If we were say, even 3-5 I could understand the logic, but at 6-2 you're really risking blowing up a perfectly good season. Not to mention Winnipeg fans are fickle to begin with, could you imagine the backlash if they promoted Pierce to OC, then went 0-2? That's how you end up with the cyclical firings we were notorious for most of the last decade, which would then make it more difficult to attract coaching talent, and the problem perpetuates itself.

So... you're candidates are: 1. Buck Pierce: A guy who's never been an offensive coordinator. 2. Ryan Dinwiddie: A coordinator that sounds like nothing more than a puppet with the current staff in Calgary. Dickenson calls the plays, and Dinwiddie's formal title is Quarterbacks Coach. When Dinwiddie was in full control in Montreal, in 2013 - 2015, they never posted a winning season... and oddly enough that was in large part due to their putrid offense.

Sure, they have a problem closing out games, but is the solution really to blow up the entire offense by either jettisoning LaPo or Nichols or as some on here would argue, both? From everyone calling for LaPo's head, I've yet to hear of a suggestion for a replacement OC. Or maybe they think we'd be better off without an OC at all?

I'll agree Zylstra is better than Matthews, but we need Matthews as a deep threat... without him, and with Adams currently on the shelf, opposing D's would really come downhill hard on us.

Well, actually OTT is tied with us for 2-and-outs. Although our 2-and-outs (44) are above league average (35.6), we also still lead the league in the following offensive categories, despite the bad road trip to Ontario: - Offensive touchdowns (23) - Overall touchdowns (25) - Passing touchdowns (15) - Rushing yards (982) - This is particularly good, considering how much more frequently SSK attempts to run the ball (SSK has 187 rush attempts, we have only 151 but still manage to lead the league in rushing yards). We are also 2nd only to EDM in passing efficiency (EDM - 104.5, WPG 102.6) I'd be more concerned with the high number of two-and-outs if we didn't maintain the ball offensively for so long, the two other teams with more two-and-outs (OTT, TOR) are also dead last in average time of possession (25:38 and 26:46), whereas the bombers (32:34) are much closer to the top average (MTL - 33:16). This is indicative of OTT and TOR having to change their strategy to more pass-happy because they play from behind more often. This in turn is riskier, and thus results in more two-and-outs. Changing your starting QB or offensive coordinator when you're 6-2 is nothing short of ridiculous.

Regardless of fan base, every cohort has its share of jerks. For example, Philadelphia Eagles fans have a terrible reputation for things like cheering opposing player injuries, and booing Santa. By no means does it mean every Eagles fan is inherently a jerk, it just means they are unjustly perceived as such.

I understand why they don't want delays, but forcing the score to final like that is just silly in my opinion. Anyone know if this rule applies to the playoffs / Grey Cup? Now THAT would be bush league.

Obviously Grant should be our new QB ... he had over 300 yards.

HH to Nichols for properly executing QB Kneel formation after Streveler closed things out.

Well, Etienne never played a single down for them, so I don't see how that trade could've been any worse for them? Sure Willy may have just never resigned, but they may have been able to flip him elsewhere for a more promising trade that may have panned out.

Okay in the crazy-alternate reality world where we "win" the 2014 Burris sweepstakes, one would have to assume Willy stays with SSK going forward in 2014 (instead of traded to us)... I would think long-term that would've made us worse off and SASK better off (seeing as how they got Jade Etienne in the trade). So yeah, on top of Burris being a jerk, it would've made SSK better off and us worse off, so no thank you. Also if you assume Burris would result in the 2016 GC landing here - no way, Burris would've been mulch with those awful 2014/2015 seasons from the porous O-lines...and the supporting cast certainly wasn't there.

Say what you want about his play, but he loves our city, his daughter's middle name is named after our city. People here say he's a crybaby, but nobody on this forum (except maybe Tburgess) has had even 1,000 people angry at them at the same time. That stuff stays with you, even if you are a professional.

This is a terrible measure, winning a Grey Cup is a team effort. By your logic, Milt Stegall, Charles Roberts and Jack Jacobs are all bums

Drew Willy never looked the same after his knee injury in 2015. Oddly enough, Nichols career has a similar story line, albeit with more talent around him (thus resulting in a better overall record).

Regarding management of our current and potential QBs, I agree that our organization both currently, and historically, has been horrendous at managing, and developing quarterbacking talent. Regardless of Nichols success/failure this year, Streveler has got to be the guy going forward, O'Shea's logic of essentially never pulling/resting starters has completely backfired in multiple scenarios, and worse it has resulted in our backups being greener than they need to be when called upon due to inevitable injuries.