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That should be the go to, yes. He is, he's late stages robert gordon. Our wr core, is that bad right now.

'Cause it's not a locker room, it's a country club. They are an old team and still believe that if they are healthy late in the season, they will find a way. Despite all the massive doses of reality we've been getting. The fact we aren't practicing tells me not only are we not making unforced changes for Thursday, but we also aren't planning them after that either. We should take one of the extra practices this week. Pads can even be off. Run skelly and full group packs with extremely high tempo. Pre-called plays: you get 3 plays; each has to get 10 yards, and after that you sub and keep doing it over and over. The D doesn't need to hit; they need to run and drill position and leverage. Use good pursuit angles, square up well. They can two-hand or go past. Speed and execution should be the focal point. They can do stuff like hit sleds for physicality.

Nichols hasn't been nearly the biggest issue in the secondary. Both the field and boundary sides have been awful. No one should be married to the starting spots, but the one who has been all bad is Moxey. Otherwise, the primary cause of our struggle has been the scheme. This has been for 2 primary reasons. 1, we are reinventing the wheel yet again, and 2, the complexity has all the DBs playing extremely tentatively, which leads to getting burned. We used to take a LBer off for 1db, who would play between the half and the LBer. We would also, for that part of a year, take a DL off and run an extra deep cover DB. What we are doing now is taking a Lber off for a DB, but putting that DB in as a 2nd Safety. But then we are playing those safeties shallow to the box. We then rotate coverage to add a DB to the box in a blitz or to play a shallow zone. This is causing havoc with who is picking up the deepest targets. Normally in our system, either the corner carries his man to the Half then covers under that, or he carries his man deep if he's playing on an island on the wide side. Then the SAM or the dime sub db would wall off the lane/seam inside to pick up crossers. In Cover 3, the halfs and S would generally have deep 3rds and be the guy a WR is carried to. Sometimes that would be rotated over 1 spot with a SAM going up and a half playing short. Usually this would happen vs an unbalanced WR set to the wide side. We've changed how many DBs we play, and some roles, but largely it's been the same scheme going back to Hall. The idea is that the DBs play in backpedal as much as possible, facing the QB and rallying to the ball to make plays. That's why we have long coveted big and athletic DBs. Hall tended to play more vanilla in coverage and played with a larger cushion. Generally dropping the seam and short zone to the first down marker. Which is why we saw so many catch and runs for first downs back in the day. (the Fire Hall thread era complaints) JY plays with less cushion; he likes to blitz more and use complicated rotations to change the gaps from blitzing. Whereas Hall counted on 4 DL to create disruption, with the LBER blitzing when the RB didn't vacate the backfield, but really just eating up an OL to keep the 4 dl in 1on1s. Hall would do more with the front to create pressure; the cheetah pack we used is an example, twists/stunts, and layering pass rush lanes so that we wouldn't get QBs in 2 seconds, but they wouldn't see 4+ second pockets. Previously, Nichols was either playing a wall/seam on first down so he could be used in the run fits, or picking up a target pushing deep when he was in the intermediate range, knowing he had an S in the middle to anchor his leverage off of. So short zone player under and usually outside to leverage the WR up to him and a S to leverage the inside. He would then read the route and either take the outside away or go downfield stride for stride. What we are doing now in coverage is running a lot of Cover 2, with far less consistency in who is the 2nd deep cover guy. When we do run Cover 3, we are often running it with a corner on a deep 3rd instead of inside DBs. The 2nd S is playing so shallow/blitzing so often that the deep cover guys are too far apart to be leveraged by anyone who isn't right under them. And the 2 guys taking deep zone assignments are so infrequently the same guys that no one is comfortable or able to leverage off deep cover. Watch the first Calgary passing highlight at 35 seconds. It looks like a traditional 4-2 alignment in the CFL pre-snap. But by the time the ball is snapped, Kelly the S is right up behind Jones the Mac. Pause when the ball is caught at 41 seconds. Williams the corner and Nichols are at the same depth. Holm was the only deep player, and the ball is thrown to the target under him. Moxey has been pushed deep by his WR. In the past, this would've been a pass off of the wideout to Holm, with Moxey coming up to the short pass with the Sam playing the wall. But Holm is the only deep man, so they both get pulled off. The Sam, Griffin, is pulled in by the play action and jet motion of 17 for Calgary, creating the immediate gap in coverage. So the motion from 17 causes an overly complicated response from the D. Kelly moves up to the box, Griffin moves up for the PA and the motion, and Nichols switches to man, leaving Holm with the decision of being the only guy left in deep cover with 2 guys pushing deep, or coming up on a short to medium route. This looks bad for Holm, but he made the best decision possible. It's a no-win spot for him, though. No matter which decision he makes, we are giving up a completion for a first down. Then, of course, the tackling is poor because the pursuit angles are frantic and no one has good leverage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIRmxVOqF-k In the past, instead of having 4 guys in the tackle box, the SAM would kick out further outside to pick up the motion from the wr and the S would stay deep. If you watch the next play at 52 seconds, you again see us start in cover 3, with the deepest man only 10 yards off the line of scrimmage; then we move the S up to the box again into cover 2. Nichols and Holm are the only deep guys, which leaves us with open gaps in the run fits. That leaves us with 1 more gap than players to fill it, despite the crowded box. That also relies on DBs to close interior gaps. 1.44, we show cover 3 and drop into it, but this time we have Hallett and Kelly in the 2 S set both playing deep. They get it out quick to a WR for an easy first. If you pause before the ball comes out at 1.44, you see 5 Calgary WRs past the line with no DBs playing short. That pass could've got to any WR on a short route for an easy first down. VA just has to hit a guy quickly who is away from the LBs. 3.00 we get a sack on showing and dropping 3 deep in a more traditional 4-2 with the SAM wide and corners up. But if Va wasn't locked in on 4, who is open, he'd have seen 87 was open for a first right in front of him. Because he is running a drag route vs the Wil. These aren't cases of the DBs just getting beaten. It's our scheme being beaten and giving Calgary what they want without taking away anything really. Normally, you aim to take away some of the looks the offence likes while trading off deep cover and run fit balance based on down and distance. Instead, we aren't really doing any of those. We are giving up the high-percentage throws to the wideouts; we aren't taking away the deep ball with sound deep cover, and we aren't running the run fits well. The field is too wide for frequent Cover 2 use, and not having some consistency in who is the deep cover makes it very hard to hand guys off. Nichols and Holm aren't being asked to do the same job they have been here, and are all over the map in what they are doing snap to snap. The Canadian contingent in deep cover this year is largely playing the role of scarecrows. But no one is afraid. Kelly has actually been the best of those 3, which is problematic in itself. Most teams these days play 1 Canadian back there doing this stuff. Nobody is playing 2, especially not with the frequency we are using cover 0-2.

If that were the case, he wouldn't have been made the then-highest-paid OL in the league. In general, people overestimate athletes' desire to play close to "home". Adults make the move for work all the time and very often settle in new communities. Belle River (where he grew up) is also a hell of a long way away from Ottawa. It's to the very southwest of London, on the other side of the GTA.

Yep, no one else is that desperate. He's off the radar. If Schoen's speed is now somewhere between Lawler and Corcoran, he'd be an upgrade if he can stay healthy. Maybe he could coach up the rest of the wr core on what to do when your QB is running for his life too. I don't think he's on even our radar, though. If we see a rash of imp injuries, maybe they will call him. Otherwise, I doubt it.

No, its still an over pay even with his step up. It's just less awful. OL is the position to overpay at, especially for young Canadians. Desjarlais is the guy we should've paid. The fact we squandered Gray and let both Dobson and Desjarlais walk is a big problem. We kept having NI OL walk for so long; we thought we would always have the next guy. And we just didn't. We had some bad OL classes, and the NFL started vacuuming up our top prospects.

I don’t think a vet coach that is an improvement exists as an option. You either look at a vet who gets fired and who you hope can bounce back with you (like ritchie back in the day) or you try to develop a new young guy and take some lumps for a couple years. Young guy getting a first hc gig is the popular choice generally. i could actually see a buck getting canned and being an option in the off season. I do not think mos or walters will be shown the door this year or next though. The cfl coaching and front office works badly needs fresh blood but it isn’t happening any time soon.

hamilton heavily over paid for dobson before he stepped forward. I’ve been his biggest supporter but that deal was a bad gamble even though it worked out.

I’d like to see us develop wallace more at rt, but he’s not ready right now. Should be poncius if broxton can’t go.

I can’t even guess at broxton. he walked off a little gingerly but under his own steam. Could be back soon or in trouble. I stopped the other pgt because it, the gdt and season thread all seemed to be bleeding into each other and causing repetition. But idk if it’s better with out it. The thing that kills me is not playing to win or pulling guys to get better. We passed on soo many opportunities to go for it that when we finally did it was pointless and a poor spot. And in the end we didn’t get a good shot at turning the game around and didn’t use reps to protect guys we have and get young guys reps.

only two ways out of it. one, we get healthy and crazy lucky with development, not too likely given the volume of spots we need. Or two, we start jettisoning dead weight and bringing in new guys, but we have to repeat the process for a long while to find gems. Reality is, it’s hard to fix and easy to ignore. ignoring roster management issues has gotten the mafia a 3 year matching extension, so they have no reason to change.

It’s really confounding how we are soo deep into the season with out a vet wr on the pr, only 1 cover dbs on the pr, more then 1 imp dt on the whole roster, or the fact that our whole roster is just 1 global deep. Other things i’d do, send daniels to the pr. he isn’t bringing any thing and takes snaps away from mci who is better at every thing. Start clercius over nield. I like nield and i think he will be excellent down the road. but he hasn’t produced and every one needs the message that if you don’t produce you don’t play. Bring in some one like masoli to sit in the ir/pr and be a coach with out eating into the front office cap. Actively shop assets like nl/picks/draft rights for young talent. Finally clear out the pr to make room for airlifts.

Bryant out. If vanterpool is healthy start him at rt other wise poncius vs wallace probably poncius. The ol could use more but we don’t have much to go in for subs. Vaval is too good with the ball in his hands not to see action. use him in jet sweep packs, screens etc. Start singer at wr no more 3 nis. strip TC of play calling duties. Bring in lapo if possible. Honestly, i’d let zach call plays whether he is starting or not. Hall takes over play calling duties for now. jy still installs D and such, but hall is the qc and jys boss not working for jy. His adjustments are fantastic, and he doesn’t over complicate play calls. Dl, cut jenkins. Demote korny to pr. bring in imp dts. Cut wilson and start smith. rotation of jones has been pretty good, continue that. Air lift in dbs, rookie imps and vet cuts. most every one in the secondary needs to be pushed. Cut moxey right away. When allen is back try him at that corner spot. DA wj. he’s damn good and already rotating, and nuer has been doing better each game.

you are correct, that is what you get with a guy who can’t run and aren’t a wr. Corcoran can run many routes, he can’t get open, but he can run them. Daniel’s may as well do the cha cha slide

Pretty much. In theory, we could bring someone in, but then we would need time for an install. And it couldn't even be a full flush of the system, only a rework. At that, we would need someone familiar with these systems. The only way to even do a decent rework on the system and change over play call duties is to work through a bye week. Week 16 bye will be too late. The other opportunity is week 10, after BC next week. Which means we likely would need to bring that person in this week to absorb what we have and who we have to start making adjustments to implement the following week. The only name I can think of that could possibly be viable is Lapo. And I don't think he'd take it tbh. So yeah, I bet Hogan takes back the play-calling duties by LDC. Yep, I don't even think its a matter of better or worse vs Brown. Collaros, is probably the worst QB in the league when you can't protect the QB. Even more so when you can't run the ball and fall behind in games. Whatever Zach is capable of isn't even a factor.

D kept us in and got us back in the game. JY has turned around bad Ds here before. We just need to start getting DBs out of here. TC is doing a best hits of his worst jobs in the CFL. We can't run, convert in the red zone, protect the QB, pick up first downs, etc. If we can JY, Hall takes over, and while we will blitz less, we will see much of the same coverage. Little would actually change. If we can TC or take away his offensive play call duties, we don't have anyone other than Hogan who could take over. He hasn't had enough practice as an actual RB to run with proper form. He wasn't a usage guy in college either, remember. Running power comes from getting low, keeping defenders from squaring up, and timing. He doesn't have any of that; he certainly isn't a natural power runner. But he would get better at it if taught, imo. Eli was good in the run game, not great in pass. Basically, everyone gave up a couple bad rushes. A DL like Calgary is gonna win some matchups and make some plays. We all know who is racking up penalties and getting abused by any rusher opposite him. Yeah, the whole team is soft. But the secondary is sooooooooft.

Zach wouldn't have survived that game. He is drastically slower getting the ball out and forces shots much more. Even though he's been much better then the previous couple of years this year, that type of game is his kryptonite. The problem is we are a team full of old players, and a bad team. If we can trade off old bad players for value, we should. Maybe prime doug flutie makes a difference. Short of that, it's a question of who you are serving up for dinner to the D.

if the forum is depressing you it’s a good thing you didn’t watch the game!

gonna keep throwing big stank out till none of the qbs can stand

omg why do you send brown back out

coaches cap gonna kill any dreams of change sorry to say

shoot the stands look like a calgary home game now

insult meet injury. do not put brown back out there now

ok white flag time put in back ups

opi maybe lool