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you can bust your ass all you want but when it amounts to nothing...who cares...I could go out and bust my ass too (I'd prob be more successful too than him truth be told) but you dont see me on any roster no more Jake's prence just takes another player off the roster who could make an impact....and then makes the job of his dline mates tougher as they can be schemed against more....football is a game where one putz can affect the whole system....and when you have multiple on both sides of the ball...well......

Basically football 101 And dont hire from within in the old boys country club stand pat and be complacent thinking things will just work out again mode....actually put the work in and coach....plan....look forward and project...there's an idea...again....football 101

biggest blunder for sure....why do people think ZC looked good and other receiver's had impacts....cause they had space and more often than not 2 db's and at times the safety cheating over taken out of the mix watching Lawler on any given play If paying Lawler meant dumping a Thomas and or Kramdi...Or a Kolo...so be it...all 3 of those guys if not on the roster actually would have made us better as a team on top of it...and at a lesser cost...rippling down to maybe keeping another guy we lost....

Fire Hogan, replace key personnel on both lines. Get some fire. Learn to tackle.

Cam Allen as well. Not sure how many rookies you expect to make an impact, especially when the HC prefers to run with a veteran group (despite subpar play from some of them).

IMO these are the offseason steps that need to be taken, difficult as some may be. Jefferson(age/invisible most games), Thomas(age/useless pylon), Vaughters(age/invisible most games), Wilson(age/injury prone), Kolankowski(old/useless pylon), Schoen(injury prone), and Streveler(not a quarterback/injury prone) should all be let go/not re-signed. I'd honestly be ok with letting Collaros go too if they can get Elgersma signed. Bring in a guy like Crumb as your backup QB. Rebuild your d-line with FA's and young guys. Fire Hogan. And if O'Shea isnt on board with the changes he can GTFO too. Time to start fresh. The team is old and stale.

and Kolo...some just embarrassingly bad plays from both....Eli looked just fine stepping in out of position for Neuf....Time for him to be the center now... I've said several times there was a reason and connection as to why it seemed like we missed out on some guys in FA that would have kept this train chugging along...many here tried to deny it....but it is real nope....not way to build....but perfect way to retool and augment and keep your arse on the top of the hill.....if there is a legit player there for taking and you dont cause you prefer your own garbage in certain spots because that how you do your ratio...or your love/loyalty to a vet who is on downside, as opposed to upside....well then you deserve to, and will fail...we seen it here first hand

why.....Dumb and even dumber were nobody...nothing's...unknows too when they started....and it showed in first 2.5 yrs with Dumber until he got his feet held to the fire and "had" to make some changes to save his smug face Internal would be the dumbest thing...we seen how that panned out with OC guy...we need new vison/idea's...philosophy...the foundation and way we do things here organizationally is set and solid....but we need a new driver Everything built here wont fly out the door by canning the HC....and as the HC claims...he rarely knows the pulse of the room...the vets keep it in working order....that being said...perhaps he should be more hands on and coach and be part of the pulse....and actually coach and be the disciplinarian when need be....

Bailey got a few clean shots too after the throw....and then we went to the ESF and played the let him stand around with not a worry in the world scheme and pick us apart for 500+ net yards

not sure what his options are or would be.... yeah....I'd rather trade a flier guy than A QB who will most definately will be here....and it would be just like us to dump a QB who turned out to be the next legit one We need to can OC guy ASAP tho as no FA in right mind will wannna play under that dolt yeah....just shook my head on one route scheme saturdy....Pokey and I cant recall who but ran crossers....same level from opposite sides of the field and almost ran right into each other....hows a QB to pick up the free guy in tht mess...like wtf....was wen we were goinf left to right on TV screen...will have to rewatch but havnt had the stomach to yet

We only got 2 sacks in that game - both by rookies. Matt Jaworski (Fordham University) had one & so did Kydran Jenkins (Purdue - where he was teammates with Cam Allen) .

ZC is out to lunch on keeping core together.....but also depends on who the "core" is tho BO....Peterson...Pokey....MCI....Clercius....Demski...Eli...Wallace...Randolph...Vpool...Those should be considered core guys for offence....and not all necessarily pencilled in as defacto starters....some could be that actual legit depth if we can obtain better Demski needs to be 2A/2B in that group of receivers, Pokey can be the legit #1 but we need another legit top end guy to run shotgun with him....If we can't swing a trade, or sign a legit free agent QB1 if there is even one available then ZC can be back....but big "of" attached to that....If we actually can Hogan and get a legit OC....Have a legit group of weapons so ZC doesn't have to zero in on one guy and force things, and rely on heave and hope. The biggest if is he needs to be head and shoulders better than any QB in camp, and since we tied to him anyway if it is as a mentor Backup QB and solid back-up then so be it...and if he not happy with that then cut him free....as not sure what his "options" are and thats not a good attitude you want on a team trying to right the ship instead of a total teardown...and just reeks of the gifted country club atmosphere here we need to evaporate immediately There will be more than ample legit free agent targets this yr....so open up the wallaett....be open minded to what you can do with ratio and grab the best available...pretty simple....we dont need to roll out how we deploy ratio as we have for the last 5 yrs...as it's basically took us out of the running for a lot of talent we could have had, and just encouraged us toi keep a lot of out garbage too many yrs well past their usefulness I'm fine with WJ coming back...but as that vet glue...accessorily...reputation....Mentor...whatever you need to call it guy role and really he wasnt as bad as many like to think and my thoughts it's more of scheme and what they asked of him, as opposed to eroded talent...and if you are asked to hang around the line...and act like a volleyball player at the net then yeah at times you gonna look like loafing and just pointless out there....But we need young...active....complimentary ends eating up 60...70 percent of snaps and you rotate WJ in and just turn him loose Other core on defense..Ayers..Woodbey..Lawson...Woods...Smith...Shay...Nichols...Griffin.....Bailey...Allen (The 3 young ends...Jenkins/Person/Jaworski and let the best 1...or 2 make it out of camp if we dont find a FA end to be the lynchpin) after that we need some revamping....And again if we cant scout our own guys...there will be many available....and like with offence...Rigitity of ratio as well on defensive side of the ball is just a handcuff Kramdi for what he offers...and costs...is just not good enough and isn't helping things...Holm sure he got the MODP award here...not sure how but he is soft and flawed too....in a different role sure maybe he core...and would still love to see him as a "centerfield" type safety and become a picking machine Parker...Lawson JR....an the rest of the smurf clan can kick rocks....time to loose this love of theses apparent "athletic" lil waifs and roster some playmaker guys who can win battles with the 5'11" and taller receivers...we see too much bullying and lack of physicality in our backfield allowing drives to continue....we have the least physical/intimidating group in league Most importantly....our best course of action is to move on from Osh.....keep the rest intact as I am certain he isnt changing his ways...or even knows how too...an if we see no improving next yr....move on from G.M I didnt watch or listen to any of the post game drivel he may have said so not sure what his "take" was....but whatever it was I an sure was a load of crap as per usual I wanted a win...expected a loss....and stated before playoffs reason why, and that coaching ...decisions related to coaching and rostering would be our demise "of" we got to playoffs....and well wasnt far off the mark We came out uninspired...poorly prepped....out schemed right outta the gate and had an inferior roster as to what we could have had....sure we had a little spurt in the 3rd....but did anyone really think we would maintain it and hold that lead?...I didnt as much as I hoped we could have And biggest thing....no feet dragging this off-sesson...as soon as the Cup is handed off to the winning team captain it should be announced this coach is fired....that this coach is not being asked back...and player X...Y....Z....Heck...throw in A...D..M...P as well is not part of 2026

"If Hogan comes back as OC for sure we lose"...me (a season ticket holder). I was wary when he was announced as the new OC but, at the time, trusted that the Bombers' tall foreheads knew what they were doing. However, I'm extremely disappointed in Hogan, not so much that he was a "rookie" but, to my eye, because he didn't improve over the course of the season.

If Hogan comes back as OC for sure we lose Brady. That would be massive & the biggest red flag I see. Hogan has to go. But will our stubborn HC admit he was wrong & actually do it? Will his ego trump what's best for the team?

Who was that rookie Defensive End I believe from Florida or Florida State who sacked Bethel-Thompson a few times in our last home game? I think he's guaranteed 1/3 of his salary so he'll be around. I'm one of the few here who still believe in Zach. He was handcuffed by a subpar reciving group, old & slow OL & a **** up of an OC in Hogan. I'd like to see what he'd do with a revamped line, better receivers & JJ calling the plays.

How can you say Thomas os not the problem but the Defensive Line sucks? Thomas plays on the DL in a 3 man front & gets destroyed. Playng his ass off means nothing if he loses on most plays. You think getting blown out doesn't affect the play of that line, think again. We have a DC who dresses ten linebackers & then plays a 3 man front. There is no pressure. QBs can just sit there & pick their targets. Give the secondary some credit as I think they have played well. What a goofy base defense. Jordan Younge must love Cheetos.

I just can't imagine Jake Thomas coming back again but if Osh is still here, I wouldn't be surprised if he did & started again. It's a joke. Playing Thomas on a 3 man front is like watching a boat get swept out to sea in Hurricane Melissa. We could have bolstered the DL which would have made a huge difference. There were free agent OL out there. None signed. Claimed we didn't have the money. As far as recruiting goes, I think we did fine but the Head Coach plays his favourites. Young guys barely get a chance.

Woodbey. Vaval. Am I missing anyone? Cuz that’s it for guys from this camp who made an impact. 2 guys. Pretty brutal. Surely I’m missing someone but I’m not am I? Maybe you can say vanterpool also. So 3 guys. That’s not very good. Scouting is a problem. Yes got potential for an end and D tackle but 3 guys stepping up isn’t lots.

Picks this week need to be in by Sat @ 2PM Standings below:

Very interesting comparison.... Dave Ritchie was notorious for sticking with his good old boys at all costs and Charles Roberts had to basically walk away from the team for them to give him the chance... and as you said, he became one of the teams all time best.

“(In training camp) we repped a lot of things that we didn’t rep during the season. I didn’t get a lot of reps with the guys who were playing. My situation put us in jeopardy there with the suspension and trying to manage that. I think it’s getting reps — reps with the players, reps with what concepts do we like? On second-and-six, second-and-five with the game on the line, what are we going to call because we know we can execute the play? I don’t know if we had that this year, so getting good at something, I think, matters https://3downnation.com/2025/11/02/zach-collaros-frustrated-by-2025-season-but-plans-to-play-for-winnipeg-blue-bombers-in-2026/ That all tracks, but boy is that a pile of red flags. No wonder our go tos ended up being old holdovers from lapo/buck and why zach couldn’t build a repoire with any one this year. And yeah as has been said ad nauseam, the concepts we ran were trash.

This is what he said so others don't have to look it up: The article also said: and Collaros also said: Sounds like Collaros believes the Bombers has a sub-standard offensive coordinator. I think he fails to recognize the old boys he names, and you could include Collaros in that group, are simply not as good as they were 5 years ago and the Bombers haven't brought in new guys to be the stars while these guys age out.

I mean who the **** cares? Teammate doesn't throw his buddies under the bus. The only say he should have on personnel is how he feels about certain receivers and just advisory for the personnel guys in free agency or deciding whether to bring guys back. Doesn't seem like they've done him that courtesy lately based on what's on our roster today.

The highly rated college thing is kind of joke. He was on a watchlist for an award for centres that like 50 guys were on. There's only 300 NCAA teams. Coaches send in noms. 1 in 6 guys who started at centre in FBS that season were on that list. 9/10 of them never played pro football. No but mostly because there's no one in camp pushing. Again...who is being blocked here? All the guys who can play got on to roster and a lot of them took big roles as the season went on. The talent level in our training camps has been an absolute joke. Receiver and DL are real flash points IMO. Charles Roberts didn't start a game at tailback until the East Final of his rookie year. Arguably the best tailback in Bomber history. Eric Blount and Troy Mills blocked him I guess. People want to dress a team full of rookies and expect to win? No mostly people get disappointed when they actually see the guys they are hyping. Few live up to it.

Sad. Zachs interview today. Delusional the guys he mentioned who he wants back are all guys who are finished.