Jpan85 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2015/11/04/babcock-the-nets-too-small-for-the-size-of-the-goalies-period/?utm_network=twitter&utm_post=4524874&utm_source=TW%20%40NBCSports&utm_tags%20=srm[brand%20%E2%80%93%20prohockeytalk%2Ccontent%20-%20text-based%2Csport%20-%20nhl] Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 There's a whole list of reasons why scoring is down. Goalie size, expansion, the trap, offensive players actually being hit instead of being allowed to make a home behind the net. We've added O.T., dropped 1 now 2 players from O.T. which I hate like Buff. Nets wider to raise the goal output? Not a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 100%. Everything else they hve done is to prevent doing the one obvious thing. Make nets bigger. Watch video from years ago and it's night and day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Do we really want to see 8-6 games like it was when Gretzky played? Guys with average talent were 35 goal scorers. Above average players were scoring 50. Then the superstars 60 & more. The goalies back then were terrible. Defense was running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The NHL-WHA merger lowered ythe calibre of play as there weren't enough good North American players to go around. Only the influx of Euros in the late 80's & 90's brought the talent level back up. I'd rather watch a well played 3-2 game of today than a ragged 9-7 or 9-8 game from 35 years ago. Ducky and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Agreeing with Iso, once again. not only that, the shots these guys make now are amazing..... sliding the puck in threw tiny creases and openings. A Jet scored one the other day, against the blackhawks..... think it was Little, ten feet from the net, goalies right....he put it into a space probably barely bigger than the puck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Isn't the equipment massive now days as well? I'm for more goals... I enjoy the crazy high scoring of days in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Agreeing with Iso, once again. not only that, the shots these guys make now are amazing..... sliding the puck in threw tiny creases and openings. A Jet scored one the other day, against the blackhawks..... think it was Little, ten feet from the net, goalies right....he put it into a space probably barely bigger than the puck. Most of the marginal NHL players back then are AHL calibre players today. Maybe a handful of goaltenders from the 1979 thru 84 could play today but I think most would be AHL or backup goaltenders today. I'm talking some big names too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 if i had to choose between high scoring 8-6 games vs trap hockey (like 2005 that the new jersey devils perfected) i'd take scoring everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Goalies are bigger, hence less net. Sweaters are bigger...to fit over the increase in equipment, hence less net. Blockers and mitts are bigger, hence less net, to shoot at. It's no big secret. A bigger net? I guess it's easier than a bigger ice surface..and cheaper. I hope they do their homework on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Everyone wants smaller goalie equipment and I'm all for that......as soon as they throw away the carbon fibre sticks and go back to shaved down tree branches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 if i had to choose between high scoring 8-6 games vs trap hockey (like 2005 that the new jersey devils perfected) i'd take scoring everyday I like the games now. What's wrong with them? Taynted_Fayth and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Everyone wants smaller goalie equipment and I'm all for that......as soon as they throw away the carbon fibre sticks and go back to shaved down tree branches. You're right, and it's not as if those sticks last any longer. And now there is a brewing controversy in curling brooms. The technology is getting too good for its own sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 if i had to choose between high scoring 8-6 games vs trap hockey (like 2005 that the new jersey devils perfected) i'd take scoring everyday I like the games now. What's wrong with them? nothing, I enjoy the rate the games going, but if it was a choice between one or the other as far as high scoring games of old vs the game of bore from the mid 2000s, id take the high scoring games. It does seem like the CFL they keep insisting on tweaking the game, im not a big fan of the 3 on 3 OT (I could live with 4 on 4) but thats an example of why? shoot outs Ive always felt was rather dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 if i had to choose between high scoring 8-6 games vs trap hockey (like 2005 that the new jersey devils perfected) i'd take scoring everyday I'm not a big hockey strategist but since the 2004-05 lockout, hasn't the the trap just about been eliminated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 It isn't a choice between low scoring and 8-6. There's in between. It defies reason to want to find a way to increase scoring and not look at the difference between the size of Goalies and their equipment now versus years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 NBA stats show a similar trend for points per game. It's come up in the last couple of years. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Sorry my bad the 03 devils not 05. That year they went onto win the cup with the most boring style of hockey. Agree there is an inbetween and where its at now is perfectly fine, but they still insist on tweaking it more n more for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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