Fatty Liver Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Good article in the Freep today were Doug explains the positive and negatives of Etch's defensive scheme. If his fly-weight defence can continually keep opposing QB's running for their lives that would help ease the pain of giving up easy yards on the ground. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/run-d-might-be-weak-263399081.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 The biggest problem I have with the "strategy" is when we're playing from behind any team will be able to run the clock on us if we can;t stop the run... theoretically it can work, but can be a huge problem in certain situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbaugh Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Stack the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 A key to Etch's strategy is "don't fall behind". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road griller Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think he missed the fact we are Manitoba Strong. That's key! kelownabomberfan and IC Khari 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Stack the line Throw over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I think he missed the fact we are Manitoba Strong. That's key! Or as my grandmother used to say "Ukrainian strong". Of course, we'd always add "Smell doesn't count".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbaugh Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Stack the lineThrow over the top.Disguise it like you're gonna stack and drop back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbaugh Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I like how his defences really make you think on offence. Lately all teams have had to think about against a Bomber defence is who's stats they want to pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road griller Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I think he missed the fact we are Manitoba Strong. That's key!Or as my grandmother used to say "Ukrainian strong". Of course, we'd always add "Smell doesn't count".... You don't meet many Ukrainians anymore. Seems everyone wants to be Irish these days. What's with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Without a NT and stud LB'ers, I wish him all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 The most frustrating part for me, is that we have the horses to be very effective against both the pass and the run... but we're choosing to be one dimensional. Zach Anderson is strong enough to make up for his smaller physique in the NT position, and fast enough to effectively rush the passer out of that spot as well. Turner is the best pass rushing DT in the league. Peach and Vega are both good at Rushing and Run stopping as well. If we played Wild at WILL and Kuale in the middle our LBers would be pretty good to. But Thomas and Dunn are going to hamper us in the front seven against the run. I think Thomas is a decent pass rusher.... not good but decent, but he's going to get man handled against teams like Calgary and the riders against the run IMO. I think our secondary is going to be pretty fantastic though.. looking forward to the likes of Leggett, Sears, Randle and hopefully Bruce Johnson. I think Bruce Johnson and Leggett could be pretty great for us if they get regularly fair opportunities. Wouldn't mind seeing Johnson at HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 it's not the players that hurt against the run, the main thing is the alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valderan_CA Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I've actually been equally impressed with Turner's ability to kill running plays... I have a number of distinct memories of him getting to the runner well behind the line of scrimmage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 The most frustrating part for me, is that we have the horses to be very effective against both the pass and the run... but we're choosing to be one dimensional. Zach Anderson is strong enough to make up for his smaller physique in the NT position, and fast enough to effectively rush the passer out of that spot as well. Turner is the best pass rushing DT in the league. Peach and Vega are both good at Rushing and Run stopping as well. If we played Wild at WILL and Kuale in the middle our LBers would be pretty good to. But Thomas and Dunn are going to hamper us in the front seven against the run. I think Thomas is a decent pass rusher.... not good but decent, but he's going to get man handled against teams like Calgary and the riders against the run IMO. I think our secondary is going to be pretty fantastic though.. looking forward to the likes of Leggett, Sears, Randle and hopefully Bruce Johnson. I think Bruce Johnson and Leggett could be pretty great for us if they get regularly fair opportunities. Wouldn't mind seeing Johnson at HB. I believe that Zach Anderson is going to get a lot of snaps whether he is officially the starter or not. Etcheverry loves to rotate his players. We will see guys like Richardson, Stephan, Briggs, West, and Jones all getting time in the defence and that is when Anderson will be on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 The most frustrating part for me, is that we have the horses to be very effective against both the pass and the run... but we're choosing to be one dimensional. Zach Anderson is strong enough to make up for his smaller physique in the NT position, and fast enough to effectively rush the passer out of that spot as well. Turner is the best pass rushing DT in the league. Peach and Vega are both good at Rushing and Run stopping as well. If we played Wild at WILL and Kuale in the middle our LBers would be pretty good to. But Thomas and Dunn are going to hamper us in the front seven against the run. I think Thomas is a decent pass rusher.... not good but decent, but he's going to get man handled against teams like Calgary and the riders against the run IMO. I think our secondary is going to be pretty fantastic though.. looking forward to the likes of Leggett, Sears, Randle and hopefully Bruce Johnson. I think Bruce Johnson and Leggett could be pretty great for us if they get regularly fair opportunities. Wouldn't mind seeing Johnson at HB. Anderson will see lots of snaps if he makes the team. He should, I just won't assume anything at this point. Lucas and Newman were going to be big parts of the 7th NI rotation. Now we'll have to wait and see if the guys behind them on the depth chart will be as effective. I have liked almost everything I've seen from Bucknor so far. I don't pay attention to other teams lunchpail guys so he has been a very pleasant surprise to me. Maybe others knew he was this good when he came over from Hamilton. The Bombers are choosing to give Willy the best possible offence to work with right now. By game 2 they might feel confident enough in him or Goossen to start 4 NI's on the Oline. If and when it happens, Anderson will get back the title as starter and the 45 snaps per game that comes with it. Until then he's probably going to see 30 snaps per game. There has always been a rotation on the Dline; Thomas was seeing some of Anderson's snaps last year. Any issues with defending the run will have more to do with scheme than personnel. And the fact that we've assemble personnel specifically for this scheme. But mostly scheme. We didn't have a nose tackle on the roster last year and we did alright against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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