rebusrankin Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 4th best rushing season ever, that's pretty darn good. His team won three more games in a much stronger division. I agree Ray was impressive but missing too much of the season costs him imo. iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 For anyone interested, I setup a Pick 'Em to pick the winners (pictures got a little distorted): http://www.morningbigblue.com/community/index.php?app=pickems&do=games&pid=4&wid=47 Jacquie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 only 2 ints is the real impressive thing, combine that with setting a record for completion % and it's a no brainer to me. Yeah Cornish has a lot of yards but so what, he's not the only guy to get up to that kind of numbers but when was the last time you saw a td:int ratio and completion % like that? The fact that he missed games is the only thing making this close but to me no one was more outstanding than Ray. Would that completion percentage and TD:INT ratio be as good if he had played more games though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 only 2 ints is the real impressive thing, combine that with setting a record for completion % and it's a no brainer to me. Yeah Cornish has a lot of yards but so what, he's not the only guy to get up to that kind of numbers but when was the last time you saw a td:int ratio and completion % like that? The fact that he missed games is the only thing making this close but to me no one was more outstanding than Ray. Would that completion percentage and TD:INT ratio be as good if he had played more games though? They probably considered disqualifying R Ray because of his games vs. Wpg. 79/100 6 TDs 1 int. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 only 2 ints is the real impressive thing, combine that with setting a record for completion % and it's a no brainer to me. Yeah Cornish has a lot of yards but so what, he's not the only guy to get up to that kind of numbers but when was the last time you saw a td:int ratio and completion % like that? The fact that he missed games is the only thing making this close but to me no one was more outstanding than Ray. Would that completion percentage and TD:INT ratio be as good if he had played more games though? Considering that he sustained it before and after injury yeah I think he would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Another thread that has gotten completely off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconNBigBlue Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Congratz to Henoc for the nod, unfortunately he is going to be beat and I believe Ray will get the nod for MOP. These things usually fall to the QB when the option is there...but then again they may just go with Canadian as it is a Canadian game after all. I guess it's a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hard to ignore that contributing to the success of a winning team is also not a strong contributing influence. I equate it to the Conn Smythe trophy for MVP in the Stanley Cup playoffs. That award rarely goes to a player on the losing team regardless of their contribution in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat. Owens last year was bullshit, shoulda been Ray as the argos nominee then too cause without Ray Owens is not nearly as impressive a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat. Owens last year was bullshit, shoulda been Ray as the argos nominee then too cause without Ray Owens is not nearly as impressive a player. By that thinking than AC should of been the East nominee over Ray and should of won the MOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat. Owens last year was bullshit, shoulda been Ray as the argos nominee then too cause without Ray Owens is not nearly as impressive a player. Ray makes everyone on offence better... but Owens was doing 3K yards before Ray. and his 3 X 3K in a row was/is unprecedented in pro football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat. Owens last year was bullshit, shoulda been Ray as the argos nominee then too cause without Ray Owens is not nearly as impressive a player. Ray makes everyone on offence better... but Owens was doing 3K yards before Ray. and his 3 X 3K in a row was/is unprecedented in pro football. Fair enough but it's not the MOPBOTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Muamba is a very worthy nominee. In most years, he'd stroll to the league-wide award. With the new SMS in place, he's going to be pushing the pay envelope for the rest of the league. For anyone questioning Ray as a nominee for MOP this season, i really don't know what to tell you. His numbers ought to speak for himself. And if it bothers some posters that the media seem to be gushing over him (or Owens last season) it is simply because he has just smashed multiple records and looked awesome doing it. having said all that, i doubt Cornish gets beat. Owens last year was bullshit, shoulda been Ray as the argos nominee then too cause without Ray Owens is not nearly as impressive a player. Ray makes everyone on offence better... but Owens was doing 3K yards before Ray. and his 3 X 3K in a row was/is unprecedented in pro football. I hate giving kick returners awards though. Yeah he had lots of combined yards but kick returning is just cheating really. Didn't like WIlliams and Owens being top contenders just because of the combined yards when so many yards came on kick returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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