Here are the bios. Vote for 2 of them:

NOTE:

Tackles were not recorded before 1987, so any tackle numbers will not be complete for players who played before that year.

Sacks were not recorded before 1981, so any sack numbers will not be complete for players who played before that year.

 

Tom Canada – 81 games in 5 seasons (2004-08), 1 int., 45 yards, 1 TD, 6 fumble recoveries, 0 yards, 171 tackles, 41 sacks, 2 time divisional all-star (2004, 07), team nominee Most Outstanding Rookie 2004, team nominee Most Outstanding Defensive player 2007, 2007 Grey Cup appearance

Pete Catan – 41 games in 3 seasons (1981-83), 6 fumble recoveries, 26 yards, no tackle stats available, 26.5 sacks, 1982 divisional and CFL all-star, team nominee Most Outstanding Rookie 1981

Herb Gray – 156 games in 10 seasons (1956-65), 2 Int., 21 yards, 2 TD, 12 fumble recoveries, 42 yards, no tackle or sack stats available, 4 time team nominee most outstanding lineman (1957, 59, 60, 63),  CFL Most Outstanding Lineman (1960), 7 time divisional all-star (1957-62, 65), 1962 CFL all-star (*first year a league wide all-star award was given in addition to the divisional award), 4 time Grey Cup Champion (1958, 59, 61, 62), 6 Grey Cup appearances (1957-59, 61, 62, 65), CFL Hall of Fame, Blue Bomber defensive player of the half century (1930-80)

Michael Gray – 107 games in 7 seasons (1987-93), 9 fumble recoveries, 26 yards, 1 TD, 223 tackles, 43 sacks, 1989 divisional all-star, 1988 Grey Cup defensive MOP, 2 time grey Cup champion (1988, 90) , 4 Grey Cup appearances (1988, 90, 92, 93)

Jim Heighton – 125 games in 8 seasons (1970-77), 1 Int., 26 yards, 9 fumble recoveries, 8 yards, 1TD, no tackle or sack totals available, 2 time divisional all-star (1972, 74), team nominee Most Outstanding defensive player 1974, 2 time team nominee Most Outstanding Canadian (1974, 76)

Bud Marquandt – no stats available, bio reads: NDSU grad, 7 seasons (1935-41), 3 time divisional all-star (1937, 39, 40) as an end, 3 time Grey Cup champion (1935, 39, 41)

Jeff Nicklin – no stats available, his bio reads: born and raised Winnipegger, 7 seasons (1934-40), 4 time divisional all-star (1937-38 as an outside wing, 1939-40 as a flying wing), also played halfback and end, 2 time Grey Cup Champion, military career with Royal Winnipeg Rifles and C.O. of 1^st Cdn. Parachute Battalion, one of the first paratroopers who jumped on D-Day, killed in action in 1945, the Jeff Nicklin Memorial trophy is annually awarded to the Most Outstanding Player in the CFL Western Division.

Tony Norman – 95 games in 7 seasons (1980-86), 1 Int., 3 yards, 7 fumble recoveries, 46 yards, no tackle totals available, 59 sacks, 3 time divisional all-star (1983-85), 1984 Grey Cup champion

Gavin Walls – 82 games in 5 seasons (2005-09), 1 Int., 10 yards, 1 TD, 5 fumble recoveries, 114 yards, 2 TD, 197 tackles, 47 sacks, 3 time divisional all-star (2005,06,08), 2005 team nominee for Most Outstanding defensive player, 2005 CFL Rookie of the Year, 2007 Grey Cup appearance

Jamaal Westerman – 47 games in 3 seasons (2015-17), 127 tackles, 32 sacks, 2015 divisional, CFL, and CFLPA all-star, 2015 team nominee for Outstanding Player and Outstanding defensive player, and 2015 Western nominee for outstanding Canadian player

Bill Whisler – 108 games in 8 seasons (1962-69), 4 Int., 20 yards, 8 fumble recoveries, 32 yards, no tackle or sack totals available, 4 time divisional all-star (1964, 67-69), 2 time team nominee Most Outstanding Lineman (1964, 67), Grey Cup Champion (1962), 2 Grey Cup appearances (1962, 65)

Odell Willis – 43 games in 3 seasons (2009-11), 1 fumble recovery, 0 yards, 67 tackles, 28 sacks, 2010 CFLPA all-star, 2011 divisional and CFL all-star, 2011 Grey Cup appearance

 

2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Like I said, Cameron is the GREATER punter, but Ryan was the BETTER punter. But let's not get ahead of ourselves in the voting process.

there is more to punting than distance and Bob Cameron was way better at all the other stuff than Ryan when he was here. 

Jon Ryan was so bad that he ended up in the NFL for 12 years....

A kind reminder that Jon Ryan had a 50.6 yard average in his last season with the Blue.... Cameron only hit 46.9 as his highest  in his many years.

If I had to pick one of the two guys to play for an all time great time I'd easily choose Jon Ryan in his prime over Bob Cameron.     

I can see why people would want Cameron for sentimental reasons,  but as a pure punter Jon Ryan was way better.  

Jon Ryan when he was here was mostly just a leg, that he rounded out his game in the NFL has no consequence. Like I said, there is more to punting than distance and Cameron had all that. 

Jon Ryan was an instant favourite, and for good reason.

But Bob ’drywall dust’ Cameron definitely was the best punter the Bombers ever employed. So reliable..so consistent. Wind? What wind? It didn’t bother Cameron. 

He was like another Coach out there - he knew the game so well. And ball placement was probably invented by Cameron.

 

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Jon Ryan was so bad that he ended up in the NFL for 12 years....

A kind reminder that Jon Ryan had a 50.6 yard average in his last season with the Blue.... Cameron only hit 46.9 as his highest  in his many years.

If I had to pick one of the two guys to play for an all time great time I'd easily choose Jon Ryan in his prime over Bob Cameron.     

I can see why people would want Cameron for sentimental reasons,  but as a pure punter Jon Ryan was way better.  

Since we're doing kind reminders - Ryan's career average is 44.7

Just now, Mark H. said:

Since we're doing kind reminders - Ryan's career average is 44.7

Actually, his CFL career average was 46.9, the same as Cameron's best single season ever. His NFL average was 44.7 (and his net NFL average was 38.7). Cameron's career average was 42.9.

Ryan played only a few seasons in Winnipeg. Cameron punted for over 15 years. I have to agree with 17to85 here. Cameron was the best.

When Ryan was punting with the Bombers, Cameron was the radio colour commentator. Cameron said he'd never seen a punter kick like Ryan. Cameron also told the story about how when Troy Westwood first came to camp. Bob would often try to rattle new kickers, but quickly figured out that Westwood could so easily out-punt him that he would be out of a job, so instead he made friends with him, hoping that Westwood would feel sorry for him and not take his punting job. And it worked, because Westwood said he only wanted to kick field goals and not do both. Westwood told Cameron that when Ryan came along, Westwood saw the same dominance and used the cameron tactic of senior mentor and friend and convinced Ryan only to go out for punting, so he wouldn't lose his placekicking job to a much stronger leg. So if Cameron admitted Westwood could out kick him, and Westwood admitted that Ryan could out kick him, then even Cameron would admit that Ryan would be taken as a punter over him. But I'll say again, BETTER does not equate to GREATER, and Cal Murphy loved Cameron because he was like an extra coach out there. Ryan seemed to handle the same Winnipeg weather conditions just as well as Cameron did.

8 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

When Ryan was punting with the Bombers, Cameron was the radio colour commentator. Cameron said he'd never seen a punter kick like Ryan. Cameron also told the story about how when Troy Westwood first came to camp. Bob would often try to rattle new kickers, but quickly figured out that Westwood could so easily out-punt him that he would be out of a job, so instead he made friends with him, hoping that Westwood would feel sorry for him and not take his punting job. And it worked, because Westwood said he only wanted to kick field goals and not do both. Westwood told Cameron that when Ryan came along, Westwood saw the same dominance and used the cameron tactic of senior mentor and friend and convinced Ryan only to go out for punting, so he wouldn't lose his placekicking job to a much stronger leg. So if Cameron admitted Westwood could out kick him, and Westwood admitted that Ryan could out kick him, then even Cameron would admit that Ryan would be taken as a punter over him. But I'll say again, BETTER does not equate to GREATER, and Cal Murphy loved Cameron because he was like an extra coach out there. Ryan seemed to handle the same Winnipeg weather conditions just as well as Cameron did.

You do realize that Cameron was a huge kidder in general.  Loved to play practical jokes. And that he was on radio trying to build up Ryan... I'd take all that with a grain of salt. You don't think Murphy knew Westwood could punt. If he could pay one player to do2 jobs then he'd have cut Cameron. Instead he knew that Cameron was the better punter & gicing 2 jobs to Westwood might affect his accuracy with the added pressure.

 

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

You do realize that Cameron was a huge kidder in general.  Loved to play practical jokes. And that he was on radio trying to build up Ryan... I'd take all that with a grain of salt. You don't think Murphy knew Westwood could punt. If he could pay one player to do2 jobs then he'd have cut Cameron. Instead he knew that Cameron was the better punter & gicing 2 jobs to Westwood might affect his accuracy with the added pressure.

 

I do realize. Just relaying a story he told. There was great mutual respect between both kicking tandems.

46 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Ryan played only a few seasons in Winnipeg. Cameron punted for over 15 years. I have to agree with 17to85 here. Cameron was the best.

So what you are saying is you vote for Cameron based on longevity?

Would you also vote for Westwood over Medlock because he played more seasons with the Blue and Gold?

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

So what you are saying is you vote for Cameron based on longevity?

Would you also vote for Westwood over Medlock because he played more seasons with the Blue and Gold?

Medlock is still playing so ineligible.

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Medlock is still playing so ineligible.

I'm prepared to include Medlock if his stats warrant it. I intend to include Andrew Harris with the running backs. Active players are eligible if they are deemed worthy of nomination.

4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

I'm prepared to include Medlock if his stats warrant it. I intend to include Andrew Harris with the running backs. Active players are eligible if they are deemed worthy of nomination.

It's your contest so you can do what you like.

10 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

I'm prepared to include Medlock if his stats warrant it. I intend to include Andrew Harris with the running backs. Active players are eligible if they are deemed worthy of nomination.

I agree with this take.

On 2019-01-25 at 7:25 PM, Brandon said:

So what you are saying is you vote for Cameron based on longevity?

Cameron was huge in the 1988 Grey Cup. On a day when points were at a premium, when the wind was howling and our O was stalled badly, he repeatedly bailed out the team with field-flipping punts. Very rare that a punter is a difference-maker like that. 

He's like Stan Mikawos. He was as steady as the sun for a long time, he had a moment of title glory, and his work enabled his team to be great. 

On 2019-01-25 at 9:39 PM, TrueBlue4ever said:

I'm prepared to include Medlock if his stats warrant it. I intend to include Andrew Harris with the running backs. Active players are eligible if they are deemed worthy of nomination.

Comparing modern kickers with pre-2005ish kickers is tricky -- the standards are so much higher now. 

that said, I'd like to see Medlock in the mix because Kennerd was just barely an average kicker even by the lower standards of his day. Westwood wasn't that great either. And both have some serious playoff stink on them. Can't be an all-timer if you're not clutch.

Edited February 7, 20197 yr by johnzo

Yeah, I would think Medlock is a no-brainer as best kicker of all time. You can have a dogfight between Cameron and Ryan for P, but Kicker has to be Medlock, I think...