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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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Feeling the heat. Needs a distraction. 

 

 It sure if this has been posted yet.  

What a disgusting dispicable irresponsible thing to say. Sole reason is to rile up his racist base. It’s horrible 

 

Mexicans facing Allah 4 times a day?   Unreal.  For that matter, just need to go into urban areas and arrest anyone with a rug, just for safety sake.   But leave the Christians....

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Feeling the heat. Needs a distraction. 

 

Trump is practicing the gesture of the empty hand- wherein something "big" is promised with great fanfare and then when nothing materializes, it is hoped that the hype will be remembered rather than the lie. Its worked for him with his rabid base so far.

Looks like the Buzzfeed piece was not very accurate, although Buzzfeed seems to be standing by the story.

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6 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Looks like the Buzzfeed piece was not very accurate, although Buzzfeed seems to be standing by the story.

NBC News reported Ken Dilanian pointed out: “To be clear: Mueller is not disputing that Cohen says Trump told him to lie. He’s disputing the line about corroborating evidence taken from Trump Org emails, texts, etc. Still a huge deal. But not a total refutation. In fact, Cohen’s 11/30 memo says Trump directed him to lie.”

31 minutes ago, Tracker said:

NBC News reported Ken Dilanian pointed out: “To be clear: Mueller is not disputing that Cohen says Trump told him to lie. He’s disputing the line about corroborating evidence taken from Trump Org emails, texts, etc. Still a huge deal. But not a total refutation. In fact, Cohen’s 11/30 memo says Trump directed him to lie.”

So not exactly denying the story but rather the wording?

That is my take.

Dems don’t like trump’s offer and neither does his base. He’s putting himself in no mans land. 

Dems don’t like trump’s offer and neither does his base. He’s putting himself in no mans land. 

I’m assuming the strategy is that trump thinks it makes the shutdown the Dems’ now if they won’t negotiate his offer.  And will get them dems base to apply pressure to get DACA. 

but I don’t think that will work. It’s trumps base that will turn. 

Trump just offered a concession that Dems will keep now.  It’s like in sports when you offer to keep a salary cap and the league knows you’re desperate the accept that part but won’t budge on others.  

Trunp blinked. The great negotiator. 

Republican's new talking point, nobody who voted for Trump really believed that the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall

The hits are coming fast and furious lately.  Rudy moving the goal posts yet again. 

 

 

One of these days they will come and say "yes Trump did everything he is accused of doing, so what he is above the law" and then you'll hear "doesn't matter because Trump has proclaimed himself President for life" 😀

My early pick for the Dems

Trivia: She grew up in Montreal

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4 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

My early pick for the Dems

Trivia: She grew up in Montreal

I think Harris/O'Rourke would be really hard to defeat if she makes it through (and I hope she does).

I would like a Warren/Booker ticket.

But I do like Beto,  but he needs to brush up on what his stances are on for those big platform planks. 

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29 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I think Harris/O'Rourke would be really hard to defeat if she makes it through (and I hope she does).

They'd get hammered on lack of experience.  I could see one of them on the ticket though.  I prefer Harris over O'Rourke at this point but he ran a heck of a campaign in 2018.

26 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I would like a Warren/Booker ticket.

But I do like Beto,  but he needs to brush up on what his stances are on for those big platform planks. 

I'm a huge backer of Warren as well.  The Dems will have a lot of good choices.

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

They'd get hammered on lack of experience.  I could see one of them on the ticket though.  I prefer Harris over O'Rourke at this point but he ran a heck of a campaign in 2018.

They're not neophytes so I'm not sure how much that criticism will hold.  That bill checks a lot of boxes voter-wise, though.

Just now, Wideleft said:

They're not neophytes so I'm not sure how much that criticism will hold.  That bill checks a lot of boxes voter-wise, though.

I dont disagree and I think the Dems should not over-think it.  Dont buy into the idea Clinton ran a bad campaign.  She didn't.  She had so much working against her and still would have won.  They need to run a clean, but aggressive campaign on the issues that people care about.  Get all the left and moderates votes and they win easily.

Obama was criticized for lack of experience and he won.  Trump has no experience at all (although that might be an argument in favour of experience lol)

Democrats need an exciting candidate, and a fresher face probably helps more than a tired old establishment face like Clinton was. 

22 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Democrats Republicans need an exciting candidate, and a fresher face probably helps more than a tired old establishment face like Clinton was. 

This is how we got trump...

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