Jesse

I feel the opposite way you do. I'm quite excited to bring back as much of the core as we can.

I didn't really get that impression at all.

He also confirmed in that article that Stanley Bryant wants to come back.

I don't really think we can call that pricey. It's probably middle of the pack.

*I don’t recall. sorry. Typo.

I recall him being told that either, tbh. But he's under contract so he's the one who doesn't have a choice, really.

Tons of back ups want to be and feel they should be the starter. Teams don’t feel the need to trade them.

Not a controversy at all. Jones doesn’t see Ford as the starter and went out and got one.

I don't really know if the NFL thing is holding anything up. But both are probably looking for +++ dollars and Walters is doing his thing, trying to make it work. If they're too far apart and it's not going to work, I don't know if we'll necessarily hear about it until much closer to FA. I know that Darren Cameron's on vacation right now, if that means anything. Might be an off period for the office.

He's at least as athletic as Prukop; bigger, stronger, faster.

Yup.

Most posters start as lurkers until they feel comfortable enough contributing something. But if you try and share a conflicting opinion and get smashed or threatened or ridiculed, it turns people away.

There was only one person with an ego who didn’t know when to stop, imo.

From a team-building perspective, I agree with you on Schoen over Brady. But this isn't the NFL, there's no reason why Brady can't be effective for as long as Harris was. It's not like speed is his thing and losing a step will take him off the field.

Ugh. That wouldn't feel good.

You seem to be very black and white person. But this is a shades of grey decision. MOS didn't wake up one morning and fire Boudreau all on his own. But neither did Walters. They did their evaluations, had a conversation, and came to a decision. If you want to sit there and tell everyone that MOS has zero input on his own staff and I will absolutely roll my eyes at you. It is simply another case of you manipulating every comment and piece of news into the exact same criticism over and over and over.

He accomplished so much over a long career. It is very impressive. But looking season by season. He passed for over 4000 yards two times. He passed for over 30 TDs two times. Even if you add in his rushing TDs, he only crossed the 30 TD mark 4 times total. Flutie, for example played in the CFL for 8 seasons and surpassed 5000 yards and 30 TDs in 6 of them (every year he was the starter).

One crazy person doesn't really equal overrated. Playing football for that long is an accomplishment. And he had some very good seasons. And was probably the best athlete to ever play the position. I'm not going to sit here and say anything bad about him. But is he in the TOP tier? Of course not.

Well, that's just ridiculous.

That clears it up. Paul deleted the tweet so I wasn't sure if it was legit or not.

...wut?

I don't think anyone puts Allen up there with Flutie and Moon, etc. though. It seems less that he's overrated and more that Noeller wants to add a "yeah, but" anytime someone mentions his accomplishments.

Yeah, we can’t apply modern standards to previous eras. Many of the older QBs threw as many INTs as TDs with 50% passing completion %. There was not nearly as much focus on ball protection as there is now.

And what did Zach do when he was young and in Dru's position? Did he stay in Toronto to be mentored by Ricky Ray?

The upside/downside of the Brady scenario is that I bet we value him more than any other team. I think a likely scenario is he signs here for higher than he would get on the open market.