Jesse

From a team-building perspective, I agree with you on Schoen over Brady. But this isn't the NFL, there's no reason why Brady can't be effective for as long as Harris was. It's not like speed is his thing and losing a step will take him off the field.

Ugh. That wouldn't feel good.

You seem to be very black and white person. But this is a shades of grey decision. MOS didn't wake up one morning and fire Boudreau all on his own. But neither did Walters. They did their evaluations, had a conversation, and came to a decision. If you want to sit there and tell everyone that MOS has zero input on his own staff and I will absolutely roll my eyes at you. It is simply another case of you manipulating every comment and piece of news into the exact same criticism over and over and over.

He accomplished so much over a long career. It is very impressive. But looking season by season. He passed for over 4000 yards two times. He passed for over 30 TDs two times. Even if you add in his rushing TDs, he only crossed the 30 TD mark 4 times total. Flutie, for example played in the CFL for 8 seasons and surpassed 5000 yards and 30 TDs in 6 of them (every year he was the starter).

One crazy person doesn't really equal overrated. Playing football for that long is an accomplishment. And he had some very good seasons. And was probably the best athlete to ever play the position. I'm not going to sit here and say anything bad about him. But is he in the TOP tier? Of course not.

Well, that's just ridiculous.

That clears it up. Paul deleted the tweet so I wasn't sure if it was legit or not.

...wut?

I don't think anyone puts Allen up there with Flutie and Moon, etc. though. It seems less that he's overrated and more that Noeller wants to add a "yeah, but" anytime someone mentions his accomplishments.

Yeah, we can’t apply modern standards to previous eras. Many of the older QBs threw as many INTs as TDs with 50% passing completion %. There was not nearly as much focus on ball protection as there is now.

And what did Zach do when he was young and in Dru's position? Did he stay in Toronto to be mentored by Ricky Ray?

The upside/downside of the Brady scenario is that I bet we value him more than any other team. I think a likely scenario is he signs here for higher than he would get on the open market.

Very different team at the time. We have 8+ Canadians starting at times when you don't even really need 7 anymore. It's like 6+1, though it could probably be abused further. I agree with who ever said the team probably prioritizes Brady. There's probably over 100k difference in their FA value. Though Schoen strikes me as a guy who will take a more team friendly deal to stay, whereas Brady has publicly said that's not an option. From a pure team-building perspective, it frees up a lot of cap space to go import at RB. We know this franchise doesn't operate like these guys are names on a spreadsheet, however.

It went something like, Burris, Glenn, Tate, Mitchell, Arbuckle, Maier. All were at their most successful in Calgary, whether they were developed there or not.

There's something to be said for that. The more guys we get under 2 year deals, the more flexibility Walters may have going into next off-season.

Sure, but this isn't like Buck Pierce waiting around for the right HCing opportunity. Brown will be 27 next year, is probably already champing at the bit, and doesn't have infinite time to wait around IF the perfect opportunity comes up.

I don't know how many teams see him as a starter (only takes one tho), but obviously there's no starter making 200k. It may be a 200k base with incentives for starting games that gets him to 400k. But obviously the main goal of a GM is to find a QB. We see GMs commit to the next hot thing over and over again.

I personally do not understand your line of thinking here. If I'm Dru and I believe in myself that I'm ready to start, and teams are offering me starting money, why sign a one year deal to be a back-up? I don't see any motivation to do that. Any of the risks you mention will be true one year from now as well, at some point you just have to bet on yourself.

Yeah, he was one of the ones I was worried about. But we'll see.

We also may not have any.

Dobson doesn't seem to be listed as a FA, but if he is/was, that would be a hard person to retain in a 6th OL role.

They're probably a good bet to land a couple of guys. Toronto will probably lose a few guys to FA and I can see a lot of player turn over in Sask that frees up cap space so they can be the highest bidder.

Love Patty, he'll do great, The only questions that arise are, do we lose the younger guys?

My bus stop every day for 4 years in university. Never had an issue.

I always found this a weird take of yours. No one talks about him like a CIS guy. It’s always very clear. He’s a Canadian born kid whose talents took him south of the border pretty quickly. Whatever attention Rourke gets has nothing to do with Forde. Why even bring him up?