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Well, The pens major issue is their D that's for sure, But they have a ton of O and that was their decision to go that route, they could have probably fixed their D but they decided to not go that route, Chicago is more balanced for sure, top to bottom, they have a damn good top 6 and they have a damn good top 4 D. As for Captain, This is for the world cup right? I'm not sure i really care about it but my vote would go to Toews because of all the intangibles he has but.... if i had to guess, SID will get the C because he's probably still the best player in the world.

Sure they have, just some refuse to see what they have done. I'm starting to change my tune on Walters because the lack of talent on the team is somewhat shocking actually, the lack of depth... but... to say they have done nothing is just bullcrap. I'm not even sure what Millers job is, he's the president and he's done lots to try and improve the game day experience, isn't that his job? His job isn't really the onfield product, that's Walters job. If any of them shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt at this moment, it's walters.

Or change it to... those who think things are always so bad and those who think things are never as bad as some others make it out to be.. Long title but pretty much.. I'm with Noeller on this one... Things are never as bad as some make it out to be, they aren't as good as some make it out to be either...

Bob McKenzie seems to think Buff will get 7 years 7 million per on the open market... If that's the case, adios Buff. Trade him now while you can really. Cuz no way I'd give him 7 years.

Isn't the real problem a lack of depth and a lack of actual impact players on our team? I mean,Westerman,Bass, Wild (not enough games tho) are our impact players on D, Let's throw in Adams, he's a damn rookie tho (3 of those 4, that was their first year with us) On O, who are our impact players? Moore? Denmark? Willy? That's it. But in all reality, It's probably pretty tough to judge the O since that assclown Bellefeuille was in charge of it all season.... FIRE HIS ASS NOW Depth is a huge problem and that's on Walters... If you don't have the talent to replace the talent who aren't good enough, then what can you do? Maybe O'shea and the coaches did want to replace some guys but maybe the biggest problem is... they didn't have anybody to replace them with, that's on walters and the scouts.

Go with an all international defensive back group and play a Canadian at Safety, surely one of Wagonner, Sherman,Jones,Morgan,Whoever the **** else could play safety and we could go with Randle,Rookie,Johnson,Adams.

I watched the game, did half ass pay attention as I was kind of babysitting my almost 1 year old but.... or daddy daughter time lol but.... What I saw was the usual suspects busting their butts out there and several saying "**** it, i'm done" Who were those usual suspects?? on D it was Westerman, It was Leggett, It was Bass, it was... pretty much that was it, Honorable mention to Bruce Johnson and Posey who i thought was ok for a guy making his first CFL start... Of course Ian Wild always busts his ass too On O, I thought Davis looked pretty good for a guy making his first real start in like 3 years... I love Marshall's never give up attitude, I liked Nick Moore out there, I liked Denmark, I'm not an expert Oline guy i Liked what the Oline did for the most part, Goosen showed some fire there on several plays... But outside of those what? 10 11 maybe 12 guys if i include Spencer Davis on special teams, The rest weren't really that good. Let's say 12 maybe more depending on the Oline guys who actually looked like they actually gave a crap? That's not good enough. Never thought I'd say this but a large part of me hopes Walters does take that Guelph Job so the bombers are forced to move on, because I don't think Wade is gonna fire him or O'shea and while I don't think O'shea is the problem, I do think Walters and the scouts need to wake up and find some damn talent.

I believe he would be playing the right side... Stuart is LHD is he not? Pretty sure, Postma would be the RHD on the pair, These lines are based on Ken Wiebes reporting about an hour ago so who knows how accurate they are but... Pretty sure Postma would be the Right Handed D man on his pair with the Left Handed Stuart.

You can disagree, that's fine, that's your opinion and that's well and good but, I think it's pretty obvious that we are lacking team speed on O.. Moore isn't the fastest guy, He's not the slowest either, Denmark is a burner for sure but i agree wasn't really used properly at all, Kohlert is not a fast guy, The other Canadian be it, JFG or Bastien were not fast either, Adams is a little too inconsistent for my liking, there is a reason Toronto let him go and I think, at times he showed why they let him go and quite honestly, why we signed him in the same game, He has flashes but also tons of mental brain farts... First pass of the game last night, nice ball to adams, really nice throw actually... drops it, no excuse for that and we've seen that from adams a bunch of times... I mean, i Don't want a guy like that track start a few years ago who couldn't catch, Ibrahim something or Abraham something, all speed and no ability to catch but we definitely need to improve our team speed on O as a whole, maybe we do have it but MB just never took advantage of it but... it seemed to me when you compare our 5 receivers vs anyone elses top 5 receivers, bombers are pretty damn slow. And maybe it is a result of the OC just being a stupid asshat but... it's tough to say... Really think we could use another burner on the roster, maybe it's by finding a way to play with the ratio a bit and start 4 International receivers and Kohlert but... Definitely seemed to lack team speed on O... Think theres some quotes out there from other teams coaches saying Winnipeg is easy to play against because they lack team speed on O... they are easy to defend. Again perhaps it's MB and his schemes but.. some of it has to be on the players doesn't it? I mean, Import/International Receiver should not be that difficult to find or replace... Wheres our Eric Rogers or Darrel Walker or SJ Green or Ryan Smith or Manny Arcenaux or Sinopoli for that matter, Earnest Jackson, Kevin Elliot, are we the only team in the league without a receiver who hit 1000 yards???

Estrada and Stroman both proved that when the game matters most, they are MONEY... Price did not, I'd rather give that money to Estrada than Price that's for sure... Price sucks when it matters most.

Pav likely to start Petan under the weather Ladd,Little,Wheeler Perreault,Scheif,Ehlers Burmi,Lowry,Stafford D pairs have changed with Chiarot taking a seat it appears Buff,Toby Myers,Trouba Postma,Stuart Did I forget something??? Oh yes, the 4th line who will see all of 40 seconds of ice time hopefully Peluso,Cormier,Thorburn <--- Yes, that's our 4th line tonight...

Good attitude can mean jerks. Jamal Westerman has a good attitude but is a jerk on the field. I think mo just means they need guys who play on the edge and at times are willing to go over. Don't think he's referring to douchebags like khalif mitchell at all.

Ottawa had a QB that stayed healthy all year. If Collaros wasn't hurt... Hamilton would be getting the bye. Edmonton had a very good D... they are the reason they are as good as they are. Rielly is ok but nothing special... Christ Matt Nichols was like 5 and 2 as Esks starter. Esks Canadian talent was and still is better than ours. Ottawa last year was better than ours. I don't think it's excuse making... it's reality... Bombers were in a brutal spot 2 years ago Canadian talent wise... Jake Thomas is the only Canadian Joe mack drafted who is still on the roster.

Price kind of sucked in the playoffs. Sign Estrada and Jays will be OK with Stroman Estrada Dickey Sanchez and ... ?? Go after Zach Greinke... I'd take him over price any day. Greinke gonna get paid But doesn't small market low budget KC winning proves that you really don't need a price or a guy like that? ?

Sheamus is awful.

Every DB gets beat lots. Bucknor is the biggest problem. Adams is a cfl rookie. He had a strong year. Will only get better

Adams is our best dB and it's not even close. Johnson is our next best. Would love to go Randle Rookie Johnson Adams next year. When your d line gets no pressure and when your DC calls plays to keep you 10 yards away yeah Hall is way too passive for my liking. Need a more agressive DC imo

Reality in the cfl and sports in general. .. some guys are definitely guaranteed spots

The team hasn't sucked for 25 years tho. They have been real good actually just haven't won. The biggest problem is the most obvious one Tho. We need our QB to stay healthy. We haven't really had a QB for a while... before Willy was a bunch of crap and before him was Glenn and a bunch of crap and before him Khari and a bunch of crap. The years we had decent QBS we were pretty good. The years we didn't.... we weren't. It's all about qbs and Canadians and we have lacked both more often than not Perhaps like Duane ford said tonight... you can't rebuild in a couple years anymore. It takes time. Perhaps expectations are too high at times.

I'd like to see Spencer Davis as a receiver. We lack speed on O. Davis has it. OK I'd bring adams back but he certainly wouldn't be guaranteed a spot.

Goldust wasn't gay tho. He was just a freak lol. Orlando Jordan probably wanted that lame gimmick

Trouba hasn't been good since his buddy zach got trades

No its not. You need the talent too.

Halls D is awful. Way too passive. They also give up tons of huge plays. I'd seriously consider firing hall If Benevides had interest

As for released players... or guys not to sign.... Brohm Darvin Adams - just no hustle when the ball isn't headed his way Picard - what a waste of money Bucknor - Sorry but guy is Def a weak link That's my main ones.