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Willy, Bellefeuille, this one is on you guys!
Fatty Liver replied to USABomberfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yup.. Threats of violence always make your point more valid.. Smh. No - thats more frustration I get what he's saying. It can be infuriating when a 'fan' only see's what they want to see. Willy had all kinds of time to throw, he had receivers open. It was hilarious, on the telecast, Suitor tried to make a point that all the receivers were covered. The 'short' receiver was about 6 yards underneath the coverage, but of course Suits was on a roll so he said he was 'covered'. About 10 minutes of game time after that, Beck got the snap, turned, and fired a dart to Gore I believe it was, who was 'wide open' just like the bomber receiver was above, only the bomber defender was about 3 yards off him. It's amazing all the apologists there are for Drew 'freakin' Willy. At least more fans are finally starting to see what I've been seeing since mid-August. He hasn't nearly been good enough, and tonight was his worst start yet (but low an behold he finally threw another TD pass). But yeah, I get his frustration. Unless you know what the read progression is on the play that is called, it is impossible to say "he had receivers open." Probably the biggest fallacy in football from a fans point of view, when everyone goes "hey, that guy is open!" Ya, but it's the QB's 6th read, and the by the time the ball gets to him the DB or LB is going to completely fill in the "opening" most of the time. About as dumb as the people who yell "shoot" all the time on the powerplay at a hockey game. Are you a pro Qb? Juran, I'll ask you then you seem to 'know your stuff'. Explain to me how our second stringer, Brian Brohm, and our third stringers, Robert Marve, can, with the same receivers, same oline, and same OC, and same play calling, make plays, and Willy can't? This is a legit question 'cause I definitely don't have a clue. Thanks in advance Willy had a bad game. Doesn't change the point of my other^ post, we can't know if he had receivers "open" or not because we don't know what he was looking at before or during the play. Unless you have access to the coaches film it's a complete assumption to make watching on TV or from the stands. BC has a great secondary, that's part of it. Our scheme with Willy doesn't move him around a lot. Hard for us to say if that is Bellefeuille's fault, Willy's fault (in terms of him preferring to take a straight drop) or a combination. Our scheme for Brohm vs Calgary moved him around a lot, even though he isn't a "mobile" QB. Did he "make plays?" I wouldn't say he did anything special. He was steady, but it was pretty obvious that the game was simplified for him with the rollouts which essentially shorten the field, make throws and reads a little quicker. Marve was just blind luck IMO, and even at that he completed 50% of his passes while continually putting the ball in harms way. It doesn't matter what he's freaking told to look at, the best QBS in the league will find an open receiver if they are open. Especially if they are wide open! You CAN"T find an open receiver though, if you don't even look. The majority of the time Willy wasn't looking, he was panicking!#!#1 Even when he didn't have to panick!!!!! I noticed this as well, Willy does not swivel his head, he's focused on one side of the field and pays no attention to the other half. -
You mised mistake #5. Sitting Sears for 5 games when he was healthy.
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You know that's the first good argument I heard about that. That could very well be why he didn't throw the hail mary pass at the end, figured no one would catch it, and didn't want a 'third' interception, so lets just take a sack. I agree - I don't want to see him throw another interception or incomplete pass for the rest of the season - don't want his 'stats' ruined lol. So I say - start Marve, with Philpot (or whatever his name is) as the backup. Willy can sit upstairs with MB. Hell with Marve, I want to see what Philpot has to offer.
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It's like they didn't learn a damn thing about the things they did right last game. Did Willy roll out even once today?
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Willy, Bellefeuille, this one is on you guys!
Fatty Liver replied to USABomberfan's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I agree. Willy had time to throw but didn't pull the trigger. He could have made something happen by scrambling but just sat back and waited for the rush to get to him. Cotton should have received more carries but who knows why he didn't. Too bad Brohm got injured because I think Willy could learn a lot from watching him perform. They're basically the same QB's with poor mobility but Brohm manages to make his reads that much quicker and gets rid of the ball even with the same weak O-line. After watching him for a full season I suspect Willy, like many first year QB's does not see the field that well. -
Moses Madu certainly having a good game, Grigsby not so much. Doubt he survives TC next year with Gable back.
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I stand corrected, Antolin ran 17/157 against the RB's 2 weeks ago, so BC's running game is still a threat.
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Half-time update Grigsby 5 carries for 8 yards. Haven't seen him in the 3rd Q yet.
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Grigsby 5 carries for 8 yards in the first half!!!
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Same old Grigsby so far, except he's seems to have been replaced by Madu in running situations.
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He's going to switch to a 3-4 defence and Oshea will claim problem solved, no need for changes. Without Harris run D may not be that big of a problem in this game but if they don't pressure Kevin Glenn he could pick them apart.
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"Statistics are just funny numbers" Gary Etcheverry
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Durant on cusp of return to Riders lineup!
Fatty Liver replied to Migs's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I tried to hit on Sellers wife. He wasn't around. She was waaaaay out of my league. I didn't know it was his wife til the next day. I'm friggin lucky to be alive! Rod, your best chance was to dazzle her with your poetry. -
Except that this stat. refers to every game played this year so it can't be dismissed out of hand when it accounts for 92% of all wins. I'm sure if the team with the most passing yards had won with that frequency TSN would have brought that stat. up as well. I wonder how much of the remaining 8% accounts for Bomber victories, I think they out rushed the Argos the RB's and BC early in the season but can't recall them doing it since. (Sorry, too lazy to look through the game stats.)
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That statement is not proof. It simply isn't supported by that statistic you provided. That's taken out of context. Too many factors haven't been included, including passing yards and turnovers. Never said it was a proof, just an interesting stat. Interpret it as you like.
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TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL.
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Pencer cut, now Swiston, so much for the future depth of Natl. O-linemen, the cupboard is bare.
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Ray Bourke would have been nice.
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If it was a poor trade the one remedy is to get Hall back playing for the Bombers again. That'll teach those green-cootied-hicks not to play poker with a Svengali like Walters!
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That says everything you need to know about how teams feel about the Riders without Durant "we can beat them with our backups" Cornish is just that real good mix of speed and power. He's big and strong and has good enough balance he can run through tackles but he's also fast enough to break some big runs if he gets a hole. If you can draw up the kind of running back every team wants to have that's the guy there.The fact he is Canadian is such a bonus as well..He's 30 years old though. Only has a year or so left before he falls off a cliff and is out of the league. Signs of him already falling apart. That's an incredibly bold prediction. I bet he plays until he's 33 at least. There's always exceptions but age 30 is the magic number when most RBs fall off a cliff. He should extend his career by moving to Manitoba where there are not too many cliffs to fall off.
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That says everything you need to know about how teams feel about the Riders without Durant "we can beat them with our backups" Cornish is just that real good mix of speed and power. He's big and strong and has good enough balance he can run through tackles but he's also fast enough to break some big runs if he gets a hole. If you can draw up the kind of running back every team wants to have that's the guy there. He kind of reminds me of Tony Dorsett the way he carries his momentum, smooth, fast and powerful.
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Just re-watched the Stamps game and have to marvel at Cornish's running ability, he is an absolute beast. Every time he touches the ball it's a first down. Can't put a finger on what makes him so great but have to think we're watching one of the best RB's to ever play in the CFL.
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Brohm has a broken thumb; Willy to start
Fatty Liver replied to TBieber's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You tell me one coach who has the gumption to continually switch out QBs like you seem to think O'Shea should in the CFL.. Go ahead... I'll wait. You had a better chance if you would have asked which coach doesn't have the gumption to switch out a QB to give his team a change of pace. Hufnagel-playoff game be damned. Austin-all day any day. Higgins-keep lookin' for a better one. Chamblin-he would if he had anything better. Campbell-enuff of Frank already. Bennevides-what's a matta with Glenn? O'Shea-"we switched QB's but nobody noticed cause there were 3 seconds left." No smart coach will switch out there starter for a backup unless 1) there starter gets injured, or 2) they're coming off a year where they lost their starter and they're looking for their new #1. Most successful coaches do not switch out QB's midgame (I'm not talking about trick plays, I mean a full switch out where the starter doesn't come back). Most of the coaches I remember who ever did that on a regular basis lost most of the time and are no longer HC's. Put any of the listed coach's except O'Shea in a situation were they are behind and their O is doing nothing and I don't think they would have a problem switching out the QB. You don't see winning coach's like Hufnagel do this often because they don't usually find themselves in that situation. -
Brohm has a broken thumb; Willy to start
Fatty Liver replied to TBieber's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
You tell me one coach who has the gumption to continually switch out QBs like you seem to think O'Shea should in the CFL.. Go ahead... I'll wait. You had a better chance if you would have asked which coach doesn't have the gumption to switch out a QB to give his team a change of pace. Hufnagel-playoff game be damned. Austin-all day any day. Higgins-keep lookin' for a better one. Chamblin-he would if he had anything better. Campbell-enuff of Frank already. Bennevides-what's a matta with Glenn? O'Shea-"we switched QB's but nobody noticed cause there were 3 seconds left." -
Brohm has a broken thumb; Willy to start
Fatty Liver replied to TBieber's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Make no sense to me, Willy hasn't played well for Weeks now he hasn't earned the start based on his play other players have to sit and wait their turn but Willy gets to start based on what ? I won't be watching if Willy is playing I am done with stupid coaches starting their guy let the best players play ! Tired of Romby Bryant as well and EJ would be playing if he wasn't injured MOS neesd to learn to start his best players regardless of salary or who his favorites are... Willy IS the best QB, don't be ridiculous. Suggesting he's not is bordering on idiocy. I like Marve and think someday he may be better than Willy. That day is not in the near future though. I agree with your statement. I cannot for the life of me figure out how anyone could think Marve is the better QB right now. Well, Willy has been very ordinary to bad the past 9 weeks. But, I get why MOS will start him as despite Marve's great play Willy does give us the best chance to win. I mean, on one hand you got a Qb who's been playing all year, and mustered all of 23 yards passing and 1 yard net offense against Edmonton, and that same Edmonton defense, the next week, went up against a QB who hasn't thrown a ball in over a year, and he mustered up 23 yards passing in his first series. Yep - Willy is the man for sure. Willy is the starter.. Period. We are STILL in a playoff hunt amazingly.. So why would we go with our #2 guy? What you are saying makes absolutely no sense.. So willy had a rough game against one of the best defences (who got to game plan for him..) big friggin deal.. And by one of the best defences you are of course referring to the RedBlacks?