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That's just it. He has caused more harm to himself by trying to bury it than he ever would have had the story leaked when it did. Given what people in his base have forgiven him for or overlooked as it pertains to his moral character, I believe this story would have been a drop in the bucket. But now he can actually be charged with a crime (in theory).

Google "idiot" and see the images that pop up there. HINT: Looks like a Cheeto.

The weird thing to me is that Trump would even bury this story in the first place. I mean I get that he pays people off all the time, just look at his lawsuit history. But was he really that worried about a porn star leaking info about an affair that would derail his presidential campaign? If he was a normal politician, of course I could see it, but here’s a guy who, among many other things - called Mexicans rapists - mocked a reporter’s physical disability on camera - insulted a sitting US senator/war hero because he was a POW - mocked a Gold Star family - engaged in a racist smear campaign against a sitting President - ran a fraudulent “University” and charitable organization that were both fronts for personal financial gain - rather openly implied he’d like to date/sleep with his own daughter - admitted that he used his status as head of the Miss America pageant to walk into the dressing room to check out the naked contestants - bragged about grabbing women by their genitals “because when you are rich, you can get away with anything” all of this before he became President, and all very publicly and in most cases right out of his own mouth. So why fear the porn star coming forward? This is right in his wheel house to brag about, if anything. Would this revelation really be any more damaging than all of that other stuff?

Don't necessarily lump Willard in with his kids when it comes to not covering oneself in glory, and Ryan only plays on a rival team and talks smack like many pro athletes, so nothing too controversial there. I make no further comment.

When did Reaves become a heel in Winnipeg?

This is a fantastic history lesson, and highlights some of the intricacies and difficulties in doing a position by position poll over eras, which is hopefully part of the fun of this exercise. I cannot like this post enough - brilliant job!

Is that a lament, or a suggestion to remove him from the list? I have done up his bio, but he’s a weak candidate in the big picture IMO.

I think that could replace "MAGA" as the 2020 campaign slogan.

I plan to put Thompson in the safety category.

I intend to put Leggett in with the halfbacks, unless there is a strong objection (3 of his 5 seasons were at DB, although his 2 all-star nods were as a linebacker). I agree that he really was a defensive back playing in the linebacker spot to cover the 5th receiver rather than a true linebacker. Right now, I have 14 nominees in play from people's suggestions (and although I could eliminate 3 or 4 immediately whose numbers are in line with my scorned TJ Heath suggestion - and none of whom are 2 time CFL all-stars either) I will put in the entire list up for consideration Friday. Looking at the debate so far, I can say that this will prove much more difficult than the cornerback vote, with 7 different candidates that could be people's favorites based on the comments so far. I myself have got it down to 3 strong candidates in my mind, and likely not at all who others are thinking of. Hopefully people think outside the "if I didn't see them play, I won't consider them" box and consider the numbers and the all-star nods. Three things for sure - the debate will not end once voting is closed, a few posters are going to feel like "their guy" was completely and unfairly overlooked, and someone very good will not make the cut when it is all said and done.

That’s why this is the “all time” team and not “the last 10 years” team. Fullback will be voted on. I think we can agree that the #2 running back in this club will be a better player than the #1 fullback, but such is the nature of positional voting.

Sorry, all-time means all-time. One running back and one fullback.

He would be in tough to make the top 5.

Great thanks.

And Ty Jones, Aaron Brown, Tony Norman, Elfrid Payton, Buddy Tinsley, etc.......but I digress. Linebackers are still a couple of weeks away.

See my message just above yours for the explanation. I screwed up when I set up the poll and got the closing date wrong. Once I saw it was closed I tried to edit the post, but it won't let me change the closing date, so if anyone still wants to vote, just post on the thread with your 2 choices and I will add them to the results. UPDATE: I've tried editing it again and changing the closing date, so maybe it will work now. Someone let me know if you can still vote or not.

I will have an extra linebacker (2 inside/middle, 2 outside) and will also have 4 linemen (2 outside, 2 inside) so as not to have to decide 4-3 or 3-4. Our defence will have an extra player (as will the offence, with a RB, FB, 2 slotbacks, 2 WR and a 5th receiver). And no, I'm not concerned about ratio.

This begs the question of where Leggett should be listed. I'm inclined to put him with the defensive halfbacks, even though he was a linebacker half the time. Not sure he makes the cut in either position (certainly not as one of the 2 best outside linebackers all-time).

I had him on my original list of people to consider, but his numbers seemed lacking (certainly if Heath and his 7 ints. with the Bombers over 2 seasons and 2 CFL all-star nods don’t make the grade, then equal results and lesser accolades over a longer period of time would be questionable, no?). But I will put him on the nominations list and let the people decide. Democracy in action!

He won’t be. The question is which category, defensive halfback or linebacker?

I am debating where to insert Gord Rowland. He was an all-star a couple of times as a defensive halfback and a couple more as a cover linebacker. He played in the 1960’s when players played multiple positions and the roles were a bit different. He had 34 ints. so his role seemed to be more in pass coverage, so any thoughts about including him in the halfback category?

I have added Paul Brule to this list as an option and place his bio along with the others for your consideration, and I appear to have screwed up the closing date of the poll and can't seem to edit it now, so if you still want to vote, just reply in the thread with your 2 choices. I'll work out the kinks of this endeavour soon enough.

Thanks for this. Fun fact, Dr. Casey graduated in the same medical class as my father at the U of M. I will add him.

I think I’ve already said I will pull Heath from the list. As I said in an earlier post, I have seen Brule listed as a safety on a Bomber alumni site, so I was going to include him in the safety list. Positions for older players can be tricky to determine, so apologies if I am representing players in the wrong spots.

No that’s all fair comment. I did not fully consider how much of his munbers came as an Argo in his first all-star season, so I can pull him from the voting list. But he could get bonus points for being part of one of the better trades the Bombers pulled off in recent memory (Heath,what would become a first overall draft pick in 2017, and what would become Daniel Petermann in the next draft all for Drew Willy).