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If you cannot see that what happened to George Floyd and so many other backs in the US as lethal violence against innocent people, I do not know how to respond to that. I do not condone violence against the innocent but I can certainly understand it, and see it as an inevitable outcome of many decades of oppression.

Bad analogy. Not even close to equivalent.

Trump Tweets QAnon Conspiracy Theory Message Amid Unrest President Trump reposted a message amid national unrest on Sunday expressing support for the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy theory, a movement the FBI considers a potential domestic terror threat. In his tweet, Trump quote-tweeted a May 30 tweet from “Sean Cordicon,” a QAnon conspiracy theory promoter. Cordicon’s tweet included a Trump rally highlight reel and a message to his audience that they are “the calm before, during, & after the storm.” Cordicon’s tweet appears to be a reference to “The Storm,” a QAnon concept that imagines Trump and the military suddenly arresting and either executing or imprisoning top Democrats. Trump responded to the tweet with a one-word message of his own: “STRENGTH!”

As an example of American "Justice"- this 14 year old boy was executed for allegedly raping a white woman in the 50's. He was exonerated almost 70 years later when the "victim" on her deathbed recanted. The only evidence was her statement.

If your group are being killed and it goes on and on, you may change your mind. The police too often see killing or the threat of death as the first option when dealing with minorities in the US. Their typical excuse is that they felt threatened and used deadly force, and the courts have almost without exception have supported this. Case in point: recently, police pulled over a black family. The male driver stated that he had a firearm and was ordered to produce his licence, which he was required to carry. He reached for the licence and the officer panicked and shot him several times, killing him in front of his wife and daughter. The officers then handcuffed the wife and daughter and kept them in the car with their dead husband/dad. The officer's defence was that he felt threatened and was acquitted. If you think of it, an officer who is supposed to be trained to respond properly in a crisis situation can kill with impunity, how can a civilian when threatened respond perfectly? After a while, if you are a member of that group, you have to assume that you will be targeted at almost any interaction.

Interesting that you think that clothing is grounds for assault. If you think that the auto industry is Detroit is still producing vehicles in the same quantities as in the 60's, you are dead wrong. When peaceful demonstrations do not produce any improvement, and the illegal killing of blacks goes on, then violence becomes the only option.

The context of a curfew is NOT open to interpretation. The people who were shot at were obeying the law and the conflict was started by the police who illegally demanded that people go indoors for no reason except that they were filming the police. If the police are not obligated to obey the law, then who is? Conflating the urban blight of Detroit's current situation is a false equivalency. Detroit is in a major recession not because of the actions of the people, it is because the Big Three automakers in arrogance refused to produce vehicles that people wanted to buy and went broke following the dictum said by Pete Estes, the president of GM, "What's good for GM is good for America". An NBC news crew with cameras and credentials fully displayed were 500 feet away from any conflict and were still fired on by police. So was a CBC news crew.

Come on now. If you were really a diehard fan, you would have discovered what a Foley catheter is by now.

You have missed the point. These people were filming the police who were coming down a street which was not in turmoil, and the people were not ordered by the mayor or governor to stay indoors. The order was for them to stay off the streets, which they were. There was not the legal nor the situational requirement for them to hide indoors. The police were not acting within the law and therefore were committing a felony-assault.

‘Light ’em up’: Police open fire on Minneapolis residents filming them from their front porches Video reportedly taken from the Wittier neighborhood of Minneapolis on Saturday shows authorities shooting projectiles upon people filming them from a front porch. On Friday, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey imposed a curfew on the city, but his emergency order did not apply to citizens’ homes or front porches. https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/light-em-up-police-open-fire-on-minneapolis-residents-filming-them-from-their-front-porches/

Video shows Seattle cop with knee on neck of George Floyd protestor In a video posted to Twitter, a Seattle police officer was caught placing his knee on the neck and head of a George Floyd protester in much the same manner that led to the death of the Minneapolis man that has led to the nationwide protest. In the video, the man, clad in a bright orange sweatshirt, is forced to the ground by two police officers who are seen holding down as they put restraints on him. During the incident, one officer uses his knee to hold the man down, causing onlookers to yell at the cops, “Get your f*cking knee of his neck!” as the man begged for help. https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/video-shows-seattle-cop-with-knee-on-neck-of-george-floyd-protestor/

‘Rogue agency’: US Border Patrol denounced for using predator drone to spy on Minneapolis protests Civil liberties advocates sounded the alarm Friday after reporting indicated Customs and Border Protection has been flying an unmanned Predator drone over Minneapolis as the city continues to roil with protest over the police killing of George Floyd earlier this week “This is what happens when leaders sign blank check after blank check to militarize police, CBP, etc while letting violence go unchecked,” tweeted Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.). “We need answers. And we need to defund.” https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/rogue-agency-us-border-patrol-denounced-for-using-predator-drone-to-spy-on-minneapolis-protests/

You can cherry-pick videos to support any viewpoint, but the bottom line is that, as one black activist put it, "We tried passive demonstrations like kneeling during the anthem, but it produced only verbal attacks and no change. Maybe its time to try something different." I am of the age where I can recall the previous violent outbursts in 1969, and all those in between, but nothing has really changed in the American culture, which is profoundly racist, sexist and fascist. When Trump was not in power, these criminals lurked in the shadows, but he and his cronies have given them legitimacy. Make no mistake, America is in decline. Their industries have all been sent overseas, and the Bush Jr. regime even used American taxpayer money to show American industries how to ship their production offshore, the middle class is becoming poorer and smaller, and the "multiplier manufacturing jobs" have evaporated. Someone has to be to blame, dammit, and it cannot possibly be the American electorate who keep electing the same corrupt politicians, right? I am profoundly pessimistic about the outcomes here. No politician is willing to stand up and accept responsibility for decades of neglect and corruption and tell everyone- the 99%, the 1% and corporations that all of them need to sacrifice and bear their fair share of the burdens for 10-20 years to re-establish prosperity for all. Corporations and individuals alike have been strip-mining the economy and living on borrowed money. It is far easier to find someone else to blame- the Latinos, blacks, Muslims, Jews and the Chinese who have been profiting handsomely from picking over the dying, rotting carcass that is America. Trump is the symptom as well as the disease.

But how can he get the prefrontal lobotomy that he had to undergo in order to work at The Sun reversed?

NYPD Officers Drive SUV Into Black Lives Matter Protesters DISTURBING Video said to be taken Saturday night amid protests in Brooklyn shows New York City Police Department vehicles driving into a crowd of protesters. The footage depicts protesters placing a metal barricade in front of one stopped NYPD SUV and throwing things at it. A second van then arrives, protesters gather in front of it, and the van appears to deliberately drive into the crowd. Whether anyone was injured is unclear. https://www.thedailybeast.com/nypd-officers-drive-suv-into-protesters-at-black-lives-matter-protest

The Russians could not have, in their wildest dreams, have imagined the effectiveness their manipulations of Trump and the GOP would have. In a perfect world, Trump and his coterie would all be tried for treason and never see the light of day again.

In Minneapolis, a police union gone rogue To get some idea of the battle that goes on between the mayor and the police union, here is a story that was reported about a year ago. In open defiance of Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, the union that represents the city’s roughly 900 rank-and-file police officers announced that it is partnering with a national police organization to offer free “warrior-style” training for any officer who wants it… The announcement comes in response to Frey’s ban of the popular training style, which he first revealed in his State of the City address last week. Frey said at the time that Minneapolis would become the first department in the country to eliminate “fear-based” training… Many policing agencies, including Minneapolis’, are moving toward “guardian”-oriented tactics, which focus on de-escalating tense situations and use of deadly force as a last resort. But opponents of this approach argue that such techniques endanger officers’ lives by teaching them to let their guard down. So the mayor banned the use of this “warrior-style” training, with concurrence from the city’s police chief. But the union defied the ban and subsidized the training for officers anyway. It is also the police union that has defended Officer Derek Chauvin, the one who kept his knee on George Floyd’s neck for over seven minutes, when he was the target of 18 prior complaints. https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/in-minneapolis-a-police-union-gone-rogue/

Laura Ingraham to black Americans: Trump understands police brutality because of the Mueller probe MAY 30, 2020 12:30AM (UTC) Amid a stunning outburst of racially charged unrest across the country following the death of an unarmed black man in police custody, Fox News personality Laura Ingraham — who has been called a "Neo-Nazi fan favorite" by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y.; a "white supremacist" by Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas; and a "racist" and a "monster" by her own brother — assured black Americans on Thursday night that President Donald Trump's "own experience" with the "out-of-control" Russia investigation had given him an empathic understanding of "poisonous" police brutality. (Everything is fine now) https://www.salon.com/2020/05/29/laura-ingraham-to-black-americans-trump-understands-police-brutality-because-of-the-mueller-probe/

‘Brutal and unacceptable’: Calls for arrest of NYPD cop who put woman in the ER during protests Written by Bob Brigham / Raw Story May 30, 2020 164 The Speaker of the New York City Council is demanding accountability for a NYPD officer caught on tape violently striking a woman during protests of police violence. Video of the incident appeared on social media on Friday. The video appears to show the cop running up to and shoving the woman, launching her off her feet.

Brodbeck has been a right-wing troll for a long time, so this is heresy for him.

The odd thing is that Flynn was a general, and one would think that his sense of duty to his country would compel him to act in an ethical way above anything Trump would ask or direct him to do.

Trump is already setting new lows for presidential conduct, and even if there is lots of dry tinder lying around, the person who throws the lit match onto it bears the ultimate responsibility. I hope that when Trump is evicted from the White House in disgrace, there will be criminal investigations into him, Barr and the whole lot.

One of the exacerbating factors in all this is that as much as 50% of some police officers are ex-military and left the service with PTSS trauma which can easily cause them to react to confrontations as if they were in theatre. A recipe for disaster which may play into Trump's reelection plans.

The White House said that the transcripts of the Flynn conversation with the Russian ambassador completely exonerated both Flynn and the Trump administration and promised to release them. No sign of them yet- probably ever.

Trump and the GOP have set their strategy for the upcoming election. They are blaming the blacks, the WHO, Obama and China for their current mess, not only for their party, but for the whole country. Their tax cuts that allow corporations and the wealthy to fatten their purses while running up the national debt will cripple the American infrastructure for a decade or more and allow China to become the preeminent economic power in the world.